Miami Science Museum Funding Signals End of Bicentennial Park as a Music Venue

No Museum that shit aint gonna help our economy we should have more ULTRA :D

I'm a festival fan and although i don't particularly enjoy the type of music that is generally played at ULTRA, this is what is wrong with our country. People are actually arguing a music festival is better for society than 2 museums. It seems that people have lost an appreciation for the things that are more important in life. While these institutions might not benefit you because you lack culture, there is no doubt they will benefit the youth of today and generations to follow. Teaching children the importance of science and art are invaluable especially since art programs are being cut regularly. Art teaches children to be creative and innovative. Even if they can't achieve these learned skills in art it will help them in other facets of life. ULTRA will not go away. Instead of robbing our city of world class institutions of higher learning, why don't we just find another venue for ULTRA.

People should focus on the over $1 BILLION cost of the two proposed museums. Then, if the two buildings get built they will have staggering operating losses. Think losses of $25 MILLION per year before debt service.

These costs and projected losses will prevent hundreds of worthy smaller non-profits from getting any funding. Think it is hard for worthy charities and non-profits to get money now? Just wait.

hey I live in downtown, and I don't mind Ultra. I don't mind the city making money, but a museum of science, really, does that even go with Miami, whatever. The only good thing I'll get of that museum is the fact that my property will increase in prize. Now for the guy who hates electronic music, you sound like your parents when they were bitching about you cranking the new kids on the block, you know those days before you started losing hair. I hope you don't yell at your mama, hey ma wheres the f.... meatloaf. Ultra is fine, but we need more popos, because there was a rape and a suicide and some other morons from a communist country fucking up the city. That I don't respect, I've been around the US, and Miami is by far my fav. I hope that if something gets built, it's something more entertaining that a fucking museum. I love science and History, but not there, maybe where the old arena used to be. Anyways, as long as they don't touch goldrush, is allll good :)

hey I live in downtown, and I don't mind Ultra. I don't mind the city making money, but a museum of science, really, does that even go with Miami, whatever. The only good thing I'll get of that museum is the fact that my property will increase in prize. Now for the guy who hates electronic music, you sound like your parents when they were bitching about you cranking the new kids on the block, you know those days before you started losing hair. I hope you don't yell at your mama, hey ma wheres the f.... meatloaf. Ultra is fine, but we need more popos, because there was a rape and a suicide and some other morons from a communist country fucking up the city. That I don't respect, I've been around the US, and Miami is by far my fav. I hope that if something gets built, it's something more entertaining that a fucking museum. I love science and History, but not there, maybe where the old arena used to be. Anyways, as long as they don't touch goldrush, is allll good :)

I worked on the sound crew for PACE at Miami's Big Orange Festival held at Bicentennial Park in 1984 and 1985. It was a whole weekend of music with acts like Dr. John the Night Tripper, John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers, David Sanborn, Edgar Winter, Third World, Will Lee(Joe Cool), Dirty Dozen Brass Band, University of Miami Concert Jazz Band with Randy Brecker, James Cotton, Doc Severinsen with his Orchestra, Tania Maria with Airto Moreira and a few others. Most of the acts stayed right downtown, there were 4 or 5 different stages in Bicentennial, as soon as one act finished the next would start on another stage. We broke down the Dirty Dozen Brass Band and set up the U of M Concert Jazz Band(20 pieces) in 15 minutes !! Those were great times...

You all suck. Doesn't matter what Miami gets. You'll all turn it to $hit!

this museum SUX!!! thanks for killing the park.

what about that stadium that cost sooooooo much money!!!

I heard ULTRA was moving to Brwd Cnty! if so.. good redidance! I live in Brwd and if ULTRA comes up here, I'll only hate it even more (Ultra that is) sorry/ but all these showerless, X sweating, jobless zombies walking around DwnTwn Mia for this event, doesn't make it any better.. sure it brings in revenue for the city, the land costs a lot of doe to rent out for this event, hotels make $$ & then in turn, some food outlets get in more ppl to but burgers and fries.. now, what Ultra stands for.. is not music/ it's an excuse for 17-18yr olds, to drop X and dance, nay, jump around to "oonst oonst" beats- I'll never acknowledge what happens at Ultra as music! apart from the handful of real bands that show up and contribute, everything else is just a silly DJ, making noise to someone else's music.. goodbye Ultra, Ultra mierrda!

These music events are the only events that have a positive economic impact on the surrounding neighborhood. Just look at last weekend, with tens of thousands of Europeans, packing the hotels, restaurants and performance venues.

Arenas, Performing Arts Centers, and Museums always promise to revitalize the neighborhood in order to get public dollars, and never do. We have three failed examples in Downtown of this. Why? people come in to Downtown see the event, and then leave. Taking away the Park as a music venue may very well just kill the nascent renaissance we are having Downtown. Why doesn't our Government ever learn from past mistakes? We have to in order to survive.

I believe there is a lawsuit open on this because sale of waterfront city property for below market value is technically illegal.