Miami Science Museum Funding Signals End of Bicentennial Park as a Music Venue

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A thing of the past.
While we were all raving at Bicentennial Park this past weekend, Miami's most generous couple, Patricia and Phillip Frost, donated $35 million toward the construction of the new Miami Science Museum to be erected adjacent to the Miami Art Museum in what is presently known as Bicentennial Park.

If you attended Ultra this year, you already experienced the effects that the construction has had on the park, including a loss of 6,000 square feet of space and a grassless terrain that left a coating of dust on both the stage equipment and revelers.

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Aerial shot of Ultra 2011 at Bicentennial Park.
Until the Frosts' donation was made, nobody was sure when the science museum would get built, leaving enough room for events like Ultra Music Festival and Best of the Best to continue undisturbed for at least another year.

However, the $35 million now adds legitimacy to the fundraising campaign and more donations will certainly follow. Already halfway to the $100 million goal means that some of the $175 million bond money approved by voters might be released, allowing for construction to begin later this year.

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Plans for Museum Park. Miami Art Museum would be located on the north side, while the Miami Science Museum would sit west, facing Biscayne Boulevard.
So what does this mean for music events at the soon-to-be-renamed Museum Park? Plans call for well-manicured lawns and landscaping, probably not meant to take an Ultra-size beating. We could see smaller events happening at the park. But for now, Ultra may have to return to the warm embrace of Bayfront Park if it wants to stay in downtown Miami. (In several conversations with cofounder Russell Faibisch, he insists organizers are committed to keeping the festival in downtown.)

Don't get us wrong, this city deserves two world-class institutions like the Miami Art Museum and the Miami Museum of Science. And let's not forget, the city will also gain another Herzog & de Meuron-designed structure, which will only add to the grandeur of Biscayne Boulevard. But it saddens us a bit to know that we are losing one of the city's best festival locales. Surely, there is another spot in the city for a multi-use park the size of Bicentennial. Perhaps the site of the old Miami Arena?

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David Martinez
David Martinez

No Museum that shit aint gonna help our economy we should have more ULTRA :D

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

I'm a festival fan and although i don't particularly enjoy the type of music that is generally played at ULTRA, this is what is wrong with our country. People are actually arguing a music festival is better for society than 2 museums. It seems that people have lost an appreciation for the things that are more important in life. While these institutions might not benefit you because you lack culture, there is no doubt they will benefit the youth of today and generations to follow. Teaching children the importance of science and art are invaluable especially since art programs are being cut regularly. Art teaches children to be creative and innovative. Even if they can't achieve these learned skills in art it will help them in other facets of life. ULTRA will not go away. Instead of robbing our city of world class institutions of higher learning, why don't we just find another venue for ULTRA.

Broke museums generate losses
Broke museums generate losses

People should focus on the over $1 BILLION cost of the two proposed museums. Then, if the two buildings get built they will have staggering operating losses. Think losses of $25 MILLION per year before debt service.

These costs and projected losses will prevent hundreds of worthy smaller non-profits from getting any funding. Think it is hard for worthy charities and non-profits to get money now? Just wait.

Jmbgbdm
Jmbgbdm

hey I live in downtown, and I don't mind Ultra. I don't mind the city making money, but a museum of science, really, does that even go with Miami, whatever. The only good thing I'll get of that museum is the fact that my property will increase in prize. Now for the guy who hates electronic music, you sound like your parents when they were bitching about you cranking the new kids on the block, you know those days before you started losing hair. I hope you don't yell at your mama, hey ma wheres the f.... meatloaf. Ultra is fine, but we need more popos, because there was a rape and a suicide and some other morons from a communist country fucking up the city. That I don't respect, I've been around the US, and Miami is by far my fav. I hope that if something gets built, it's something more entertaining that a fucking museum. I love science and History, but not there, maybe where the old arena used to be. Anyways, as long as they don't touch goldrush, is allll good :)

jmbgbdm
jmbgbdm

hey I live in downtown, and I don't mind Ultra. I don't mind the city making money, but a museum of science, really, does that even go with Miami, whatever. The only good thing I'll get of that museum is the fact that my property will increase in prize. Now for the guy who hates electronic music, you sound like your parents when they were bitching about you cranking the new kids on the block, you know those days before you started losing hair. I hope you don't yell at your mama, hey ma wheres the f.... meatloaf. Ultra is fine, but we need more popos, because there was a rape and a suicide and some other morons from a communist country fucking up the city. That I don't respect, I've been around the US, and Miami is by far my fav. I hope that if something gets built, it's something more entertaining that a fucking museum. I love science and History, but not there, maybe where the old arena used to be. Anyways, as long as they don't touch goldrush, is allll good :)

Space Captain...
Space Captain...

I worked on the sound crew for PACE at Miami's Big Orange Festival held at Bicentennial Park in 1984 and 1985. It was a whole weekend of music with acts like Dr. John the Night Tripper, John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers, David Sanborn, Edgar Winter, Third World, Will Lee(Joe Cool), Dirty Dozen Brass Band, University of Miami Concert Jazz Band with Randy Brecker, James Cotton, Doc Severinsen with his Orchestra, Tania Maria with Airto Moreira and a few others. Most of the acts stayed right downtown, there were 4 or 5 different stages in Bicentennial, as soon as one act finished the next would start on another stage. We broke down the Dirty Dozen Brass Band and set up the U of M Concert Jazz Band(20 pieces) in 15 minutes !! Those were great times...

Dukeloui
Dukeloui

You all suck. Doesn't matter what Miami gets. You'll all turn it to $hit!

iHateU
iHateU

this museum SUX!!! thanks for killing the park.

Lola
Lola

what about that stadium that cost sooooooo much money!!!

Ajnprod
Ajnprod

I heard ULTRA was moving to Brwd Cnty! if so.. good redidance! I live in Brwd and if ULTRA comes up here, I'll only hate it even more (Ultra that is) sorry/ but all these showerless, X sweating, jobless zombies walking around DwnTwn Mia for this event, doesn't make it any better.. sure it brings in revenue for the city, the land costs a lot of doe to rent out for this event, hotels make $$ & then in turn, some food outlets get in more ppl to but burgers and fries.. now, what Ultra stands for.. is not music/ it's an excuse for 17-18yr olds, to drop X and dance, nay, jump around to "oonst oonst" beats- I'll never acknowledge what happens at Ultra as music! apart from the handful of real bands that show up and contribute, everything else is just a silly DJ, making noise to someone else's music.. goodbye Ultra, Ultra mierrda!

Brad Knoefler
Brad Knoefler

These music events are the only events that have a positive economic impact on the surrounding neighborhood. Just look at last weekend, with tens of thousands of Europeans, packing the hotels, restaurants and performance venues.

Arenas, Performing Arts Centers, and Museums always promise to revitalize the neighborhood in order to get public dollars, and never do. We have three failed examples in Downtown of this. Why? people come in to Downtown see the event, and then leave. Taking away the Park as a music venue may very well just kill the nascent renaissance we are having Downtown. Why doesn't our Government ever learn from past mistakes? We have to in order to survive.

NotALawyer
NotALawyer

I believe there is a lawsuit open on this because sale of waterfront city property for below market value is technically illegal.

IvanAps
IvanAps

I agree.  It is pathetic that people would say that a city should choose a 3 day festival over a developed park with two state of the art science and art museums.  The other 362 days a year that parks is filled with bums and garbage.  With more FAMILIES moving into that area and with the growing success and popularity of the Performing Arts Center, this is the next step in making Miami a International City.  EVERY major international city has a center containing a Science, Art and Performing Arts buildings.

As someone who has grown up and is now raising my own children in the Biscayne Corridor, I would rather see this place get something the RESIDENCES can use all year round and adds value to the community.  And by the way, the residents from around the world it will attract far out weights the Festival as fair as economic revenue.  These people will be buying condos in Downtown and Biscayne and then will pay property taxes annually.  Most of the Ultra kids stay on Miami Beach which only creates tourism tax revenue for Florida and Miami Beach……then Miami has to pay for the police details and clean up crews.

Manchego Cheese
Manchego Cheese

The people going to these events have more successful jobs than you ignoramus. And you obviously don't know the roots of Ultra do you...it all started with DJs. Bands have recently been implemented about 3 or 4 years ago. But it's ok I know you're just trying to flare up some emotions out of everyone here. That's what someone from Broward county would do. And if you don't like it then get the hell out of my state. Y yo tambien puedo hablar español hijo de puta! Come mierda!

Ehern032032
Ehern032032

You are ignorant...really...I hear Naples is nice for dumbasses line yourself...you don't like it, great...don't push your agenda on Other people.

and hope ultra does it in your backyard next year!!!

Nemo
Nemo

denying a city a constant yearly revenue stream b/c you do not care for the antics of an event is not sound business. grow up.

YourtoooldMoveon
YourtoooldMoveon

Ultra will be staying in miami. And I'm in my late 20s, enjoyed it, djs and live acts, and didn't drop E? Don't like, don't attend. Stay in broward and stfu!

Gaga
Gaga

So petition to put the museums in Overtown.

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