Dennis Ferrer on Mansion Incident: "Sad to See People Force-Fed a Misrepresentation of EDM"

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See also "Dennis Ferrer's Final Word on Getting Kicked Off Mansion Miami's Stage for Not Being 'Commercial Enough.'"

Yesterday, we told you about South Beach's Mansion kicking its headliner Dennis Ferrer off the decks mid-set for not playing "commercial enough."

Well, the Opium Group is still unavailable for comment. But Dennis Ferrer has disclosed some more details about the incident on the Deep House Page forums.

"Gettin' taken off decks is quite a sobering and humbling experience and one I shall not want to be repeated," Ferrer wrote on Monday.

UPDATE DJ Shadow kicked off the decks at Mansion Miami, just like Dennis Ferrer.

He also mentions some of the tracks that weren't considered "commercial enough" by Mansion: Storm Queen's "Look Right Through" (Jamie Jones Remix), Phil Weeks' "Jack to my Groove," and Subb-an's "This Place" (Nic Fanciulli Remix).

Dennis Ferrer's Mansion Incident

Miami's Mansion Nightclub Stops DJ Dennis Ferrer's Set for Not Being "Commercial Enough"

Mansion on Dennis Ferrer Incident: "We Had to Make a Call When His Set Cleared the Venue"

What's more, Ferrer claims the club knew very well what they were getting into musically when they hired him and it was actually a deliberate choice to showcase Ferrer's style of music. "It was reported that they were willing to try a bit of a directional reversal," Ferrer says. "It was even twittered by many as so. We had played there twice before, trying to develop something, and it seemed to be working out. But people come and people go and directions get switched in an hour!"

He adds, "I threw my hands up and got asked to be off after around 40 minutes...no harm no foul..I laughed..tweeted.. got over my initial anger and kept it moving.

"Sad though to see tons of beautiful young people being force fed what I tend to believe is a misrepresentation of the EDM culture. But wtf.. who am I to say what sounds good and doesn't...everyone has got opinions like they have what again?"

Sure, everyone has opinions like expletives. But this incident has definitely rallied hundreds, maybe thousands of EDM fans across the web who share the same opinion that megaclubs like Mansion are helping to lower the standards of music in Miami and beyond.

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Hirving
Hirving

no need for this violation.. mansion! who are they to be bending the way the land lies in terms of musical direction. Outrageous!

Pinchadiscos305™
Pinchadiscos305™

not surprising.. Dennis spins REAL House music, unfortunately, the commercialised version is a complete misinterpretation. The club had to know what they were getting into, it's an embarrassment. I'm sure his set was phenomenal.

Hulon Pate
Hulon Pate

Storm Queen's "Look Right Through" (Jamie Jones Remix)    Already huge with the Defected Records Alumni .   This should be by all rights  the most credible side of vocal House/dance music/popular/nu disco ,with a HUGE cross over factor for many different kinds of dance floors world wide.                                                                                                                      In my book easily one of the front runners for  the (Miami WMC & Summer of 2012) top tune and anthem status.                                                                                                                      Sorry to say but who ever was in charge of Mansion (MNGT) needs to step down. Obviously all Dennis could do , is just be Dennis the DJ, &  artist.    He did not get to where he is in this industry by being   the 'Kiss FM Morning show' or  by being a pop music DJ.    Mansion needs to issue a full apology to Dennis.                                      Obviously , there management  has a very limited perception of what is really happening in music.   If every  night club's expectation is for every Dj to just play the biggest most popular music hit, then everyone  would still be playing Elvis!     What these venues do is quite simple really. They sell a life style to people who have disposable incomes and guard it with a velvet rope.  'Look Right Through' quite possibly  might be one of the biggest HITS in 2012 .

Chris Dezz
Chris Dezz

this is why I will never like Mansion. Too many bad experiences with these douchey ass people.

Jimmy Jim James Treadwell
Jimmy Jim James Treadwell

Ive heard this story over and over again. Everyone wants to dictate the type of music you play at their venue. They should hire you for the type of music that you play, if you don't like my style of music, don't hire me!

LittlePhil from Chicacgo
LittlePhil from Chicacgo

Ugh, sickening....

As a lover of dance music over 20+ years and having gone done to WMC for 7 years, this does not surprise me one bit with Mansion. I avoid that place like the plauge...

MartinEB72
MartinEB72

Those so called non mainstream songs they listed is so great as dance music though.  But it is much different than what most people want, which is something to fist pump to.  I would think a high class and expensive place like Mansion would want more dance music than the music that only the young and broke would want.  If I was spending thousands of dollars I would want to hear dance music to see all the hot women dancing, not a bunch of spring breakers jam together jumping up and down with their hand raised.

Sobe4vr
Sobe4vr

how much longer until deadmau5 comes back to mansion?

Erez
Erez

Am i really being censored on this blog right now?

Erez
Erez

I've heard dennis play commercial at mansion - i've heard him kill it at last years shelbourne DJ mag party with mostly hard tech house & techno - and I just listened to the tracks he played on Saturday during his 40 minute set - listed in this article - and guess what???  I would have kicked him off the decks for playing those tracks too.  Underground music doesn't mean *boring*.  The beauty in being a DJ is finding hidden gems that have an immediate reaction on the dance floor.  You play them because you KNOW what's going to happen without people hearing it first - and that is what makes you a talented DJ.  Being a music snob and playing tracks people don't know just makes you an asshole.  People, especially DJ's... yea i'm talking to you guys the most -need to really calllllm the fuck down with all the shit talking.  Successful producers make tracks with big synths and vocals that contain just as much genius that a tech house track with a thick ass bassline might have.  OK yea so mixing commercial house dj sets might be a little easier than other genres because, but they are pushing the same keys on the keyboard to make the sounds so  - who really gives a shit.  

Like what you like and stop judging people on their *musical intelligence*.  I'm sick and tired of all this music snobbery.  There's a time and place for everything - spin what you like - if people dance to your shit and you have a following great, if not then u suck and are simply not ready for the music industry.  Go do your homework and work harder.

Erez
Erez

I've heard dennis play commercial at mansion - i've heard him kill it at last years shelbourne DJ mag party with mostly hard tech house & techno - and I just listened to the tracks he played on Saturday during his 40 minute set - listed in this article - and guess what???  

I would have kicked him off the decks for playing those tracks too.  Underground music doesn't mean *boring*.  The beauty in being a DJ is finding hidden gems that have an immediate reaction on the dance floor.  You play them because you KNOW what's going to happen without people hearing it first - and that is what makes you a talented DJ.  Being a music snob and playing tracks people don't know just makes you an asshole.  People, especially DJ's... yea i'm talking to you guys the most -need to really calllllm the fuck down with all the shit talking.  Successful producers make tracks with big synths and vocals that contain just as much genius that a tech house track with a thick ass bassline might have.  OK yea so mixing commercial house dj sets might be a little easier than other genres because, but they are pushing the same keys on the keyboard to make the sounds so  - who really gives a shit.  

Like what you like and stop judging people on their *musical intelligence*.  I'm sick and tired of all this music snobbery.  There's a time and place for everything - spin what you like - if people dance to your shit and you have a following great, if not then u suck and are simply not ready for the music industry.  Go do your homework and work harder.

Erez
Erez

I've heard dennis play commercial at mansion - i've heard him kill it at last years shelbourne DJ mag party with mostly hard tech house & techno - and I just listened to the tracks he played on Saturday during his 40 minute set - listed in this article - and guess what???  

I would have kicked him off the decks for playing those tracks too.  Underground music doesn't mean *boring*.  The beauty in being a DJ is finding hidden gems that have an immediate reaction on the dance floor.  You play them because you KNOW what's going to happen without people hearing it first - and that is what makes you a talented DJ.  Being a music snob and playing tracks people don't know just makes you an asshole.  

People, especially DJ's... yea i'm talking to you guys the most -need to really calllllm the fuck down with all the shit talking.  Successful producers make tracks with big synths and vocals that contain just as much genius that a tech house track with a thick ass bassline might have.  OK yea so mixing commercial house dj sets might be a little easier than other genres, but they are pushing the same keys on the keyboard to make the sounds so  - who really gives a shit.  

Like what you like and stop judging people on their *musical intelligence*.  I'm sick and tired of all this music snobbery.  There's a time and place for everything - spin what you like - if people dance to your shit and you have a following great, if not then u suck and are simply not ready for the music industry.  Go do your homework and work harder.

Hambrugesa
Hambrugesa

This is one of my pet peeves for people who say that this genre of House is the "real house music" and that all other genres of House music "do not represent the EDM community." There are all kinds of different genres of House music and ALL should be equally respected, not just one genre. That's what makes life exciting, otherwise we'd all be "fed"to think that only one genre is the "real house music."

Nic
Nic

Mansion Sucks......

Kahlif79
Kahlif79

it doesn't matter if those fans rally and share their opinions. it matters if they spend their money  on the so-called 'real music' and it matters if record labels rally the resources to promote 'real music' to the mainstream ....anything less is just pissing in the wind.

La Renee
La Renee

WE LOVE U DENNIS.....NO MATTER WHAT THE MAINSTREAM TRIES TO DICTATE!!! IT IS MOST UNFORTUNATE FOR THEM THAT THEY HAVE ZERO CONCEPT OF WHAT QUALITY  MUSIC IS!!!!! 

caca
caca

There will always be a market for clueless tools with an excess of disposable income. These are the people that Mansion and its ilk prey upon. It's not like Miami is the only city guilty of this sort of thing.

Anon
Anon

even after their "revamp" and "image change" they still hold true to their douchey ways. 

stevemac77
stevemac77

@Superjoint0 ....wrong Superloint0. Why are you blaming "Miami"? There are a lot of other clubs/venues in South Florida besides that fucking shit hole mansion. FUCK MANSION!!!!!!  I will NEVER go back there, and i will do everything I can to inform people not to go to that fucking piece of shit place again.

Dev
Dev

i'd be more ashamed for Mansion being so damn retarded. They said that his set cleared the venue which is hardly even close to the truth, the people that were there knew the style of music ferrer plays and were ready for him to just do his thing. Mansion only saw the few ppl who left and complained most likely at door as they were leaving and they just saw $ leave instead of looking at the dance floor and seeing the people jam to his music.

caca
caca

I hate to break it to you but LMFAO and Steve Aoki, despite being labeled "electro house," are about as far from actual house music as Pearl Jam. That is shrill, soulless electropop better suited for fist-pumping than actual dancing.

Musa Ibraheem
Musa Ibraheem

Well unfortunately, only one style of EDM is a direct descendant of the house music that originated in the mid 1980s, and what Ferrer plays is it. In a sharply racist nation and world, many of these other styles arose because house's r&b, jazz, and latin elements sounded "too black, too strong". Well too bad, the mainstream of a form of artistic expression isn't defined by how much money it makes, but by artistic integrity, and stylistic identity.

Trance and electro, hi-nrg, and other electronic styles are fine for those who like them. but they aren't house. Dubstep and other newer forms are fine too. Every generation wants its own musical identity. The EDM tent IS a big one, but mislabeling is deceptive. The stylistic identity of house is quite clear, and a somewhat house-sounding remix of a pop song isn't it. In Miami as anywhere, those who know, understand this. 

Musa Ibraheem
Musa Ibraheem

So go listen to Katy Perry...and let us grownups talk.

caca
caca

Selling records is a dying business model and hardly an accurate indicator of popularity. Please stop defending crap music just because the "artists" have more rack space at Walmart.

caca
caca

By the way, this all sounds like a repeat of what happened with the dance music popularity explosion Stateside during the late 90s. The last few years have been especially good to club owners because the resurrection of Ibizapop on the radio and TV has skyrocked demand for places that play that cheesy, watered-down junk. It's only a matter of time before the mainstream moves on to the next old trend.

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