Ten Reasons EDM Is the Wimpiest Youth Culture Movement Ever



Cheesy Vocals About Love
And topping off this audible mountain of awful is always some generic, throwaway vocal track by some girl no one will ever give two shits about, whisper-singing the same vague bullshit we called "poetry" in the 7th grade. Not only is it obnoxiously formulaic, it's soulless and canned. It's like lyrical Spam.

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Did you kill your cat, dye it, shave it, and decide you would honor the corpse by sticking it to your shins? No, because that would actually make you a hard-ass psychopath. What you did do was waste $40 on the dumbest accessory known to man, then actually leave your house looking like you've got an animal fetish. Shit is not cute, girls. Grow the fuck up.


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lock88
lock88

Hahaha so many butt hurt edm lovers raging because their lame, mass-produced, predictable music was called out in an article. I also dont like seeing these articles posted online because keeping you all contained at shitty festivals leaves room at legitimate electronic events for the rest of us.

PLURislife
PLURislife

PLUR man. Raving and EDM isn't a wimpy movement just because it's not filled with exaggerated testosterone and violence. Its about acceptance, being able to be who the fuck you who want to be and having others be okay with that and support you. Is there something wrong with having a connection with people, whether you just met them or not? Is it wimpy to show kindness and love to complete fucking strangers? No, it's not. Some of us are tired of living in a fucked up selfish world and seek to change it. Music is one of the most powerful motivators.

On some of the things you posted;
Pauly D isn't an accurate persona of the movement,
vaseline is for the eylids to see colors and lights more vividly,
the masks are partially for looks, partially to keep the dust and dirt out of your nose and mouth,

nathaniel-evan
nathaniel-evan

I would absolutely agree with you, Kat, if you didn't bash Deadmau5 and the raver fashion. To me Deadmau5 is just really outspoken. And those furry boots are, sort of, the "trend" in dance music festivals today, and you can't criticize it because it's lame and stupid and whatever. If you were to ask those ravers about the '70s fashion, maybe they would slam it too.

RockRobotRock
RockRobotRock

It is once you listen to French Progressive House...

Okay, onward!

What is up with you people paying no respect towards EDM? Okay, there are a lot of people who would do some bad things at raves, but 9 times out of 10, most people are just there having fun dancing with their friends until the sun comes up, no illegal substances involved thank you very much. Plus, raves are fun! Have you ever been to one? You can't possibly say they are awful until you have been to at least one. All of the lights, people, colors, and exciting thrilling music that makes you want to dance is what makes it exciting and lively. Is that wimpy? Not at all, it's a party!

Also, DJing and Producing are two different things, most DJ's are also producers. And they both are very skilled and it is EXTREMELY difficult to do what they do. Getting perfect samples, tracks, your machines, controllers, and keyboard synthesizers (those are REAL 100% instruments) in perfect synchronization to create a perfect melody that makes people uplifted and ready to move is excruciatingly hard, and takes years upon years of practice and/or schooling to do this. Plus, artists such as Daft Punk will use PHYSICAL instruments in their pieces. Take their newest album, Random Access Memories which won 5 Grammys, including ALBUM OF THE YEAR. Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo, one half of daft punk, would play the Bass guitar, the Drums, and the keyboard synthesizer, he would even sing and do some of the "Robotic Vocals" in the songs with the use of a Vox coder. Thomas Bangalter (the other half) would play the Guitar, Keytar, Bass, and lead the synthesizers and modulators. This album was recorded in 3 different studios, featuring many artists, and culturally diverse as the members of Daft Punk are French, and there were many others who performed along with them from all over the globe. How cool is that?

So therefore EDM is NOT lame, it's NOT stupid, and it is NOT wimpy. Next time, do your research on the topic, gain a little more knowledge on the topic, and learn some respect towards other genres. We aren't going to quit dancing, so why should you make us?

sapez12
sapez12

Sounds like someone is a bit mad that our generation isn't head over heels for the cheesy as all hell music of 50+ year olds. I could also write an article with 10 reasons why you are a butthurt old man with no idea why people like things you don't enjoy.

sangdogg
sangdogg

I rave and EDCed since 1999. I realize now, EDM IS THE SHITTIEST MUSIC EVER.

EDM is definitely for kids, youth or adult who didn't have friend at their early 20's.


kids and youth will realize and some will quit EDM after around 5 years. 


I FUCKIN HATE THESE ELECRO BRASS OR ELECTRO PAD INSTRUMENT COMPETITION BY YOUNG ASS PRODUCERS.


sorry english isn't my primary language.

jakespyroboy
jakespyroboy

Stupidest article I have ever read. EDM is bringing the hippy culture back. And as that its becoming a fad, I'd enjoy to see a more peaceful outcome with our generation... We are the future, bro.

YoungProud
YoungProud

I love how you started off with Pauly D and continued taking the Want to be EDM lovers. And that blow on Deadmau5 was low. Honestly i see this being extremely biased and only one sided. you don't even have all the facts correct. Yes, i agree, EDM is turning into a Fad, the Fad will end and only the real fans will stay behind, I am not one of the bandwagon followers. I love EDM find it amazing how it brings people together and its not even about drugs. 

cyanidestudios
cyanidestudios

This is funny.... This Kat Bein chick rags on EDM music and then tweets how epic the new Diplo track is..... I smell a sell out.....

marktheviolator55
marktheviolator55

you suck. you have no idea the amazing things edm has done for so many people. you think were wimpy, we dont care what you think. theres nothing wimpy about dancing your balls off with your best friends until the sun comes up. you said that its bad that by the end of the night we love our friends more than we did and were accepting to any strangers. thats not a pussy thing to me, thats being an awesome person and living your life up. but i guess the rager lifestyle isnt for everyone. i guess some are just to wimpy to throw down with the bass drops.

Ronnie_M
Ronnie_M

This article is one big facepalm

ecarr725
ecarr725

You ARE aware Deadmau5 DOESNT make trance music....

AgelessMind
AgelessMind

The writer has an opinion. Nothing more. I am close to 60 years old and my wife (mid fifties) and I love EDM. We are going to events (and are usually the oldest, unless going in Europe). We can't wait to go to EDC next year. We watched all three days of Tomorrowland a fews ago on Youtube TV.  Yes, it reminds me of the late 60s / early 70s (in San Francisco), but that's too easy of a comparison. 

First of all, each generation has 'their music", it is always evolving, but I particularly find myself attracted to EDM, House, Trance, Dubstep, and their sub genres. It's uplifting, but you have to be a person also who wants to get more uplifted. If you believe the music, the beat, the lyrics, the atmosphere can get you there (with or without drugs and that is a personal decision), then indeed it will. Music can get you as far as you let it take you. However, and it appears the writer of the article is one of them as it relates to EDM, if a negative judgment against a genre and its listeners already exists, then objectivity is the least that is lost. What is lost is another chance to have an open mind and observe and feel without negative judgment, not allowing preconceived opinions dictate the experience in the first place. Let's not forget that the self-accused condem ;).

Electronica was always my gig, having seen every Emerson, Lake and Palmer as well as Yes, Pink Floyd, Gentle Giant concert when growing up. Keith Emerson was the first dude with a real synthesizer, the size of a small bedroom, less capable that the old desktop under the desk here. It was the love of the music and technology allowed to progress the genre. 

The hippie movement was into love, peace and happiness. isn't that a great ideal to strive for? Nope, obviously not for the majority of people on this planet. They prefer hate, war and chaos. Look at the world....What do you see more? Love, Peace and Happiness or hate, war and chaos. Seems to me that this is more favored. Peace movements are usually associated with a 'certain small group of people', ie. 'liberals' or 'lefties'...How weird is that. No one wants Peace? 

EDM festivals, EDM lyrics are making a huge step forward to make this little voice of peace heard on this otherwise war (personal, family, cultures, countries, religions) infested planet. EDM Festivals as well as many lyrics have discovered how to achieve that which was not achievable in the hippie times. Love, Peace and Happiness are a mental condition and they can be achieved even with the most chaos around you. EDM offers a means to get there quicker (mentally / spiritually). EDM Festivals call out unity! It's in shared interest sin which peace is born. As David Guetta, Sebastian Ingrosso and others pointed out at Tomorrowland, there is the Jew next to the Palestinian, next to a person from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, China, Russia, you name it...they all love the music which is shared interest. In this it is One. It always was one Mind, which thought it was separate and discreet, and if one (pun intended) let's the music lift you there, you can feel the ecstasy (with or without "X") of the memory of One, which is Love, Peace and Happiness as a state of being. 

What's wrong with that? Who would not like that? oh, I forgot...most people really don't like to feel good....And if it feels too good, then something must be wrong and done about it. What a weird species we are...

GO EDM, GO this generation. Make it happen! Unity will ultimately win. 

"Imagine there is no heaven, and no religion to,

remember all the people, living in peace".


"Reload, this is free love

this is what we are made of"...


Yes we are,

Thank you all 

nathanialwest
nathanialwest

The inception of the total absurdity of this article is that it is written by a woman and attempts to analyze electronic music culture.  Beyond this, the superficial jousts it attempts to make at the mainstream derivative of a vast and mutable chain of unique subcultures do not even begin to expose what image obsession does exist in the various scenes beyond what a novice, idiot voyeur could observe.  Well done, OP.

dustin.oconnor
dustin.oconnor

this girl says she is talking shit. i really hope that this is all some twisted hipster raver making a joke. first off wimpiest generation. that care bear kandi raver dude probably has a gun in his back pack to protect himself.


 i'm not sure why people got to hate on celebrity djs. i don't think there is anything wrong with Italian ravers. guido is fashion. fuck there the only ones on the east coast who even know what von dutch and ed hardy are. maybe i'm jaded because i designed for christian. its french star fashion thing from hollywood. 


this author needs to stop acting like she doesn't throw her hands in the air. pauly d is the biggest dj new england has. we wouldn't have had club therapy if it where not for the Italians. therapy will be missed by many people. 


lets just say pauly is or was ( i don't have tv )  interesting. when barbara walters tells you that you have the highest ratings in the world of tv and are the most fascinating person or people of the year. i don't think that makes you the lamest person possible. they where interesting, i say yeah buddy to myself all the time. i can't stop saying it and everybody thinks its lame and i don't want to be lame. its kind of frustrating. 


i was like what there's a real world on tv where a bunch Italian club kids get wasted and go to clubs every night to get lucky. people where fascinated because the guido world seems so strange culturally and distant as they keep to themselves. 


its just strange to me because people need to stop acting like they are not doing the same shit. its like hmm i do laundry, i go to the gym, shit they have tanning gym and laundry in my apartment building. i go to the club to get lucky and will either end up with naked people in the snow bank afterwards or wasted eating hamburgers and acting stupid with some friends if I'm not so lucky. seriously don't try an pretend you don't do the same shit.  


there where jokes here and there. the situation defiantly doesn't have jokes that is apparent from the roast he tried doing his comedy act with. that was actually a pretty lame joke played on him. seriously all those professional comedians on that station and no one helped him out with writing some jokes. the whole thing made me feel awkward, but then trump got roasted and well i laughed. snooky certainly got jokes. 


actually progressive is a pretty good word the author made up. i just think its poor journalism to talk shit without backing it up with some better solution. like hipster core is way better or something. its like she doesn't like builds and drops and lazer alien spaceship baselines ? she certainly is into deep house then ? no apparently not. 


she starts talking shit about kascade ? wtf. sure he is expanding his styles to get progressive but throws down deep cuts. back in the day kascade was jacking that deep sf house with two turntables and a keyboard. you didn't hear any laser alien build up space rocket bomb drop music. skrillex has won a bunch of grammies. apparently the association doesn't agree.


next is the gamet of fuzzy, diy, vicks, dust mask, wearing, care bear back pack glow toy people. I'm really sorry its not a fad. fads die, adults with pacifiers is going on the a few as in three decades. the pacifier was invented centuries ago and is one of the best inventions known to man next to fire electricity and the plow. try telling me the pacifier isn't great for children and i will tell you to have children. 


seriously though what is wrong with EDM now. I'm hyped on the exponential growth of the culture i love but mainstream hipsters who have who have never tried molly baffles me. when is not ok to make your own big furry over-alls and top hat. what makes you think you are to cool for EDM. the only pacifier you would catch me wearing around my neck would be gold and diamond crusted or plastic rubbery slimy poopy snooty covered with hole in it. 


i don't know whats wrong with these main stream kids thinking they are better than everyone. it makes me feel like I'm in jr high again and nirvana isn't cool anymore because they are popular or something. the culture used to about acceptance of everyone. it didn't matter how weird or fucked you where it was ok.  


don't get me wrong its not like i don't understand. when the sun comes and people are all frazzled with glitter and vics running down there face searching for there sunglasses in a cereal box back pack while cleaning dust out of there under wear or what ever is lets say moments i will never forget.


that shit made me feel good because i looked good because i felt good. i would feel good because i would look at some crazy fragal rock monster with torn apart alien costume wearing person and think to my self. I'm ok and not as fucked up and funny looking as i think i am because that person is straight fucked up looking right now. 


I'm not even going to comment on joel. first off he doesn't make trance music. maybe he does now ? i don't know that guy. you shouldn't judge people by there online personas because you can not tell the context in which they are being said. 


he is usually correct about buttons and things. his beef with madonna was apparently some personal shit. he has a record label called mau5trap trap means crack house by the way incase you didn't know. I'm not going to get into my whole end the drug war campaign. 


i will just say madonna was relevant to dance music before joel and after him if he crashes and burns. all i can say is at five years old my kid knows deadmau5 and i didn't tell her about him. so he has fans decades down the line, and if he is posting pictures of his pussy, his girl and his moose on Facebook i should add or like him. fuck i totally want to see a picture of his girl riding his moose bareback now. oh fuck it i would think he has reached his limit of Facebook people. 


I'm over it, and out of touch. I care about madonna. watching her cry in europe while singing an acoustic remix of like a virgin brought tears to my eyes, and i don't even know why. maybe this author is right i am fucking wimp.


seriously people need to stop posting these top what ever edm articles. all of them are some of the worst journalism i have ever read. all i have to say to the authors of these things.  is wait a few years until you get replaces by the new jaded hipster model and your the one being made fun of and see how that feels. 


i feel dumb for even clicking on this link. 

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/crossfade/2012/09/edm_is_wimpiest_youth_movement_ten_reasons.php?page=4

fraser.howell27
fraser.howell27

As much as most of our scene is full of cunts, the writer of this article is also a COLOSSAL cunt. Just because you don't like dance music and prefer rap doesn't mean it sucks. You sound like a fucking idiot saying 'rappers drink codeine and soda and it makes them look gangsta'. Idiot.

Du5JacK
Du5JacK

You forgot to add "in Florida" to every one of your facts! I have lived all over the country through the whole 25+ years of rave culture in America... Florida has been the cheese since day one! It doesn't surprise me at all that this negative bullshit is coming from Miami! Good luck Hate Face!

pokey56
pokey56

It's sad there's very little facts behind this at all. Just because of it's exponential rise in popularity (music and culture) over the past few years doesn't make it "wimpy" or "fake" by any means. These are the rockstars of the new millennium. I'm sure opinion pieces like this were written by grumpy parents when the Beatles and Elvis rose to fame as well. Let's disprove all your points:


1. Comparing Pauly D to any artist other than Pitbull or Flo Rida (who steal music) or Paris Hilton as a DJ. Their popularity came from their celebrity lifestyles, not their music.

2. Electronic DANCE music. If you want calm and relaxing music, maybe a coffee shop would be more suited for you than a night club. If you had any musical ear whatsoever, you'd know that each "build" is much different from artist to artist and song to song, yo. 

3. Cheesy vocals about love. Really? Are you comparing EDM to death metal, here? 

4-6. All part of the culture. Cowboy boots/hats look stupid on most people but there's 50,000 people wearing them at every Kenny Chesney concert. 

7. In reality, it is a small amount of EDM-goers that do harder-than-weed-or-alcohol drugs. Disco had ectasy, hip-hop has codeine syrup, the list goes on and on. Get real.

8. deadmau5 is arguably one of the most influential artists of the EDM movement, and his production is top-of-the-line (he writes his own g-d software) and knows how to throw a party. If you go to one of his shows and have a bad time, you're likely just a sad person. As a person, Joel is a narcissistic jerk who only cares about himself, but his music is some of the best out there. Lebron James is a crybaby, I don't see anyone in Miami complaining about him...

9. Like it was said below, Mexico City does in fact throw some of the biggest parties in North America and has the largest growing population of EDM-lovers. None of the big names "buy" fans, their labels take care of their marketing, and they don't need to.

10. "The Sync Button." Again, you're comparing simple, run of the mill, frat boy DJ's to real artists. Yes, just about anyone with a laptop and mixer can "DJ" but their quality is far less than anyone who has any musical talent whatsoever. There's a lot that goes into live mixing. You are in control of a party. If you suck, the party sucks, and you're out of a job.


In summation, your article here is really generalized and you really have no knowledge of how much time, effort, and heart goes into each and every track that is produced. It's not like these people just sit at a computer for an hour and loop samples they buy and call it a day. Everything is done "by hand," from the writing of the actual music to the mastering and editing. Sounds a lot harder than picking up a guitar, strumming a couple chords, and singing twangy lyrics about how your dog/wife left you with nothing but a pickup truck. Open your mind and eyes a little bit before going keyboard commando on an entire culture, or at least do SOME research other than watching an episode of Jersey Shore or whatever-the-hell Paris Hilton does on TV. 

DarlingCR
DarlingCR

the vicks/pacifier girls are only good from making their fathers ashamed. 

joebonham
joebonham

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Wow, you have a horrible "news" site for music. Talk about horrible journalism.

jmac79
jmac79

i don't understand why people don't see mexico as an edm hot spot.  asot 600 was in mexico city and tiesto just played there last night too. avicii has played in mexico, and deadmau5 has been playing there since '08.  the only person who's been buying fans is dj bl3nd.

spaspa6
spaspa6

The author sounds very bitter. He picks silly and arbitrary things to pick on (Vick's vapor rub, for instance). That's a classic bully tactic.  He even clings to the schoolyard insult "wimp".

The EDM culture certainly has its flaws. For instance, the line between chemical spiritualism and chemical addiction is fuzzy at best. An alarming percentage of people cross that line. 

However, the EDM generation are sincere in their love for art, for dance, for creative expression, and for one another. It's not fake. It's not jaded. It's not judgmental. It's not sarcastic. The sincerity is real. Living and speaking sincerely is something the author hasn't begun to comprehend.

Harrison_Fjord
Harrison_Fjord

Shit is hilarious.  That is all. 

Also,  Brogressive.  Hahaha....

pander75
pander75

Wow... thanks for the nice flashback to 2001!

MadMadLove
MadMadLove

Top 1 Reason this Article is Lame: 

1. This list has been made with the same exact list dozens of times. 

Top 1 Reason It is Wrong:

www.plurforsure.org

^^That website was created after 1 of the worst journalistic forays into the EDM scene. 

Infantile Bloggers and "Journalists" Beware: My tiny clothes raving booty is here to let you know you can type all you want, it could never stop the human spirit from doing what it wants. 

Your writing is irrelevant. A phat beat will cause more people to dance than your poopy writing can make people stop. 

Holler in the Glitter lined Streets,
I Dont Know You, But I Love You

stopannoyingbloggers
stopannoyingbloggers

The author is probably one of those wanna be white gangsters. Seriously, pick out some more stereotypes about a certain movement. You can find negative aspects about any culture movement if you look hard enough. Seriously whats wrong about a culture of peace and love? Really i mean come on, you are using the word wimpy for christ sakes. Ooooooooooo that is so offensive. Do something more productive than bitching and ranting about some music scene you hate. You sound exactly like Deadmau5. Therefor that makes you even "wimpier" than the rest of us.

jonweiskopf
jonweiskopf

okay, you guys, this article is fucking hilarious. the individual who wrote it is being funny. thats it. there is no true negative connotation with any of it, unless you are, in fact, one of the idiots being made fun of. sorry. 

DestroDNB
DestroDNB

lol its funny but hippies will always be the wussiest group of teenage dirtbags evar

rider1
rider1

People need to get a sense of humor! Relax its mad funny

roly.gomez.puelles
roly.gomez.puelles

@ecarr725  her list could have been valid at some point had she not said Deadmau5 music is Trance... 

Dear Kat Bein  GO CRAWL UNDER ROCK .. <---- how is that for Wimpy!!? 

roly.gomez.puelles
roly.gomez.puelles

@ecarr725 her list could have been valid at some point had she not said Deadmau5 music is Trance... 

Dear Kat Bein  GO CRAWL UNDER ROCK .. <---- how is that for Wimpy!!? 

happylady457
happylady457

@AgelessMind  I wouldn't begin to compare Dubstep to House Music. I have nothing against EDM unless it's a sellout. Raves began in 1989, back when it was all about the Acid House, the music was amazing and the atmosphere was amazing. And in case you are not aware, House music is THIRTY YEARS OLD THIS YEAR! The first House Record on vinyl was On and On by Jesse Saunders, released in January 1984... We need to get back to that sound though, that Raw, Deep, Soulful, Atmospheric sound, that gorgeous Synth. Dubstep is relatively new, and In my opinion, I just don't like it, I find it quite awful. I love the Peace and Love aspect of EDM, but I feel the music needs to develop that little bit more, go back to the days of '88-'93, maybe learn about the pioneers of House, the Trax Label, Paradise Garage, The Muzic Box... All those places were sacred, and defined a generation. I am not a hater at all, I absolutely love most forms of Dance music (not Dubstep though :-( ) I just yearn for those days back, for the feeling of that House sound... just watch this video... and tell me how you wouldn't want the music to sound like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avj9V-fU4mY It really is amazing :) the fact is that House music still exists in it's true forms, away from the sellouts, the true House still exists Underground, it's up to us to pull it out and remind people how hypnotic, beautiful and truly incredible REAL Dance music is :) Peace!

teakthek
teakthek

@pokey56 @pokey56 Okay, as someone who goes to a lot of these shows, I'll offer my rebuttal to the points that I disagree with in your rebuttal.


1. Pauly D can actually DJ, on vinyl too. Of course he got famous as a result of the show he was on, but at least he's put the effort into learning the art. The writer's point was about fist pumping anyway, which reaches far beyond Pauly D and looks stupid as hell.

2. He's not saying that the music shouldnt have build-ups, it's that the songs he's referencing all have the same 2 minute long retardedly exaggerated buildup that all sound the same as each other. take about 10 risers, an increasingly sped up snare, and something pitched upwards and you have every mainstream edm build up in the world. The point is that there are other ways to transition into a drop without it being some cheesy knock off "epic" sounding pile of noise.

3. The vocals are cheesy, and most of them are taken from sample packs made by companies who make loads of money off producers who make loads of money off people who buy into this crap thinking its some sort of deep soulful thing when its just an audio file downloaded from the internet that they slap onto their track to fill in some space. Yeah sometimes there's singers featured in the track, but they're essentially saying the same shit. It doesn't have to be either love vocals or death metal vocals. There's plenty of other vocals you could put on a track without it sounding exactly like all the other ones. A lot of these producers make tracks like these to get girls, and what better way than to slap some cheesy love vocal on your track so they can put their little hand hearts in the air during the breakdown of a song and someone can take a picture from behind and post it on facebook or tumblr. The whole thing stinks of cheese and fakeness. 

4-6. Sure wear rave boots if you want, that's up to you. But using vicks inhalers and sucking on pacifiers is like wearing a sign saying "LOOK AT ME IM ON DRUGS JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE". What happened to discretion when using substances? No wonder the rave scene has such a bad name because of people's desire to outwardly express the fact that they're under the influence of illicit substances. The enormous prevalence of these drugs has spread to the music itself which influences the youth who should not be taking these sort of substances, and it gives the whole community a bad name.

7. First of all, disco had cocaine, ecstasy was not even popular back then or very well known. I'll tell you from first hand experience, over half the people I see at shows are CLEARLY on drugs, it's not a small amount. People have looked at me confused because of the fact that I'm NOT on drugs. The whole culture is centered around drugs and the fact that the scene is being infested with research chemicals and impure substances that are NOT what people think they are when they're taking it, it leads to a lot of unforeseen consequences. I've seen enough people fall into seizures at shows to know that it's a fucking problem, it's not a small amount by any means.

8. Sure deadmau5 is a good producer, but he is a cry baby and i've never went to one of his shows but i've watched his live stream at ultra and it was incredibly boring. Sorry not everyone has the same music taste as you, and btw I'm not a sad person. I just think his set is incredibly drawn out to the point that i could fall asleep.

9. Some major artists buy their fans, most don't. Excision has posted why Mexico city is at the top of lists quite often but I can't be bothered to find it. Not everything is as legitimate as it seems though.

10. The thing about the sync button is nearly the entire crowd cannot tell if they're beatmatching or not. If they play songs the crowd wants to hear and they don't fuck up, everyone is gonna say they "totally killed it". You still have control of the party if you can choose your tracks on the fly so that speaks nothing for live mixing versus sync'd mixing. Some of the best sets I've seen were made using ableton and not live mixed at all. His point is that new technology has reduced the art of dj'ing to something anyone can do with very little effort.

And yes I produce in my spare time and I know that a lot of these artists do in fact loop samples that they buy which is a sizable portion of the track. You know how easy a house beat is to make? you can literally make it in 2 seconds. It does take a lot of work to make a full track especially with mixing and mastering involved, but the direction that mainstream EDM is taking is that of unoriginality and a very bland and obvious formula to anyone who analyzes the music enough to notice it.

happylady457
happylady457

@strawberry.fields.fr  Well you clearly don't Understand true House Music dear, Ever heard of Paradise Garage? The Muzic Box? The Warehouse? or CLASSIC tracks such as Your Love, Move Your Body, Beautiful People? If not then you're only judging the saturated, lame and mainstream so-called 'Dance' music that is becoming rapidly popular in the CHARTS. REALITY CHECK! House Music is NOT meant for the masses, but for a small group of committed individuals who actually understand the feeling! haha. Oh the ignorance! Trust me, if you've never heard The Whistle Song, Follow Me or Promised Land, DON'T even call Dance music something with 'No Heart' and 'No Soul'. Please do some more research. It's all okay to like Classic Rock, but don't go hating a genre you know nothing about, and have only heard the utter rubbish that the radio popularizes. I do hope you open your eyes. Peace and Good Day to you :)

ny91yoshi
ny91yoshi

the truth of the matter, is not that these artists bought fake likes, its that fake profile accounts are liking these popular artists pages because of their already well established fanbases to spam them with fake posts and ads, and alot of these fake profiles happen to come from mexico city apparently.

saelios
saelios

@rider1 it was pretty funny he definately got a rise out of people which whether or not what he was going for it works. haha

djzunderground
djzunderground

@teakthek I totally agree with your sentiments. In my own words I must say.  This stuff today is clearly un-original, talentless, and lacking any morsel of creativity. It's actually really sad.  The EDM crowd does not recognize nor expect any creativity to any of their so-called performances. If they expected any of that. They'd be pretty pissed off. Today's music is the biggest ear-rape heist in music history.  Generation X-Y is EXACTLY Z for Zin.  Done.

MadMadLove
MadMadLove

@nate.bayer1 @MadMadLove  Subjective opinions can never be "true" only objective empirical facts and even then parameters must be set. 

"Furry boots are dumb" is not a true fact. 

Anything else Nate? =) 

MadMadLove
MadMadLove

@bhughes1010 @MadMadLove @nate.bayer1 

Question for you: Do you believe intellect is a bully's weapon? 

If you feel "bullied" by a smart person, do you realize what you are saying about yourself?

To answer your question, no I am not bullying, nor bullying people with my intellect, which is the most awesome, hilarious accusation EVER! =) 

I work for the Southern Poverty Law Center on their anti bullying campaign, and I run an anti bullying facebook group. <3 

So Bhughes looks like you are one hell of a psychic ;)

I go from "intellectual" to "Dumb kid in furry boots" in 2 sentences. BOMB. 

Ummm, the people that play festivals and massives....you don't think a lot of them started out as local artists? 

I feel what you are saying, you're not the first to point this out, rock listeners have had this issue for a long time. 

Have you gone to plurforsure.org? 

That website is about making the scene better and safer. If you have any complaints, thoughts etc on the scene, please feel free to leave a comment on the website, I am very interested in what everyone has to say and feel. 

Im going to be a major player in the EDM LA scene, so Im here to make it better. 

Do nothing but insult those that try, and Bhuges you wont be invited to shit. 

I have never worn furry boots my legs I like to show off my legs. =)  I added new photos to the website to show you my EDC 2010 outfit....

I love proving Party Poopers Wrong. <3

mad Mad Love to you! 




bhughes1010
bhughes1010

@MadMadLove@nate.bayer1@MadMadLove @nate.bayer1 Do you think you can bully people with your intellect on here? Is that what you're attempting to do in this situation? You must be one of those dumb kids wearing neon shirts or a girl wearing furry boots. Kids pay top dollar and flock to these huge festivals but will never be caught dead attending shows in their local scene with actual artists who pour their heart into the music they create and love. 

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