Ten Worst Raver Cliches

Overexcited Underager
We were 16 when we went to our first Ultra. And so yeah, our first roll. We get it. There's basically no better time to be a rave junkie than when you've got disposable income and nothing but homework standing in your way. These kids are the bread and butter of the build-and-drop formula. They're the only ones still excited to see some of these acts, because the rest of us have seen them more times than we can count. Without the wide-eyed first-timers, EDM's basically got nothing.

Finger Gloves
Ten years ago, there used to be this glowsticking technique called liquid. It meant you held the sticks in your hands and whooshed them around the air, or more likely a person's face, in a smooth and fluid motion. It was pretty impressive, but now it's all but extinct. Liquid ravers have been replaced by the oversharing finger glovers. I know you're stoked on your new toy and everything, but please stop putting them in our face without asking. Thx.

See also: Five EDM Fads That Need To Die

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flopes109
flopes109

1. vicks is only for people rolling. idk how it enhances it since i've never done it, but anyone using vicks without molly is a moron.

2. pacifiers are also for people rolling to keep their chompers occupied, ever notice the crazy joker smiles they get? 
3. the glasses, ugh do i really need to say it a third time?
4. mocking common fashion is retarded, might as well make fun of everyone wearing cowboy boots at a garth brooks concert. it's what they wear, whatever. but you'd be dead wrong to think plenty of ever chicks can't twerk like a music video model.
5. i don't get the indian thing either, but they sure can rain dance…
6. tanks for days, mine came off each day by the second set i saw. it's simple really; hot weather = less clothes. also, see point 4.
7. LOL stay away from the all ages shows. edc, ezoo, boat parties, etc will keep high schoolers away. but even better, stick to pool parties and clubs like an adult so everyone there is grown and sexy with disposable income they actually earned.
8. no one gives uninvited light shows, are you high? i've only seen people do it upon being asked, typically by people who enjoy cliches 1-3.
9. oh good you acknowledge why point 2 exists, derrrrrp.
10. nor should it, as the individuality and art expressed by the creative can be really awesome.

Onionnnnn
Onionnnnn

Tutu Chick! Why don't you go hook up with a tree or something.....

jchacarr
jchacarr

None of the people who do these things are going to listen to an uppity sarcastic bitch who took the time to make fun of them. Just sayin.

mikedee1221
mikedee1221

Quit yer bitching! If you don't like edm trends then don't follow them! Instead of bitching about them and telling others to be original how about you be original and create your own! Stop whining and judging. The stuck-up, judgemental raver may be the most annoying cliche´ yet.

Kelly Bovell
Kelly Bovell

Sorry Miami, from this article I can tell I'm really missing out :-)

Matthew Crenshaw
Matthew Crenshaw

Oh Kelly why is it when I see you name pop up on my notifications I automatically know some snarky unfounded comment is in tail.. Just because you have no concept of what WMC or ultra actually is doesn't mean you have to hate.. I wouldn't consider ultra with its multi million dollar budget, various acts from snoop dog, axel rose, and avicii to be a rave. It's come a long way since the days you got molested by some random dude who black lighted his parents shed.. :). I see you this weekend though...

Kelly Bovell
Kelly Bovell

Yeah cause raves were cool when we were 16...seriously are u still attending these?

Matthew Crenshaw
Matthew Crenshaw

Hahaha ahh thank you for writing this. I attended ultra first weekend and while I enjoyed some of my favorite djs by day three I was at my wits end with 16 year olds in some slutty Rainbow Bright Halloween costume designed or 6 year olds and don't even get me started in guys with pacifiers. How can you honestly look at yourself in the mirror while sporting some light up candy pacifier and not think wow I have zero dignity. I was dying with the carton smedium jumping back pack guy.. Do you really need a backpack. Is there some outward bound jungle hike in the imaginary Forrest of Hialeah after ultra.. Seriously

Lauren Kathryn
Lauren Kathryn

Then MNT will be posting 10 awesome things about raves because talking shit then giving praise is the name of the game...oh and it pays their bills.

Jimbo99
Jimbo99

Sounds like a bunch of old geezers itemizing, who remember Spring Break for the 70's & 80's, grew out of it in the 90's & 00's, yet still go down there to be in the middle of it all because it keeps them young ? Actually reminds me of Daytona Beach and the cycles they have too for tourism. MTV is gone as it was during the 80's, get over it ? There are those that make a mint off speed weeks, bike weeks and spring break, then there are those that cling to it because they have a career/life that is tied to the debauchery.

Noah Greene
Noah Greene

C.j. Durand they wrote an article about u! :)

jonnnney
jonnnney

Articles like this one are what is wrong with EDM culture, not the ravers mind you, the people who write articles like these are the problem. There are far too many judgmental pricks in the electronic music scene. You are wearing a tutu? gr...rr other people wear tutus you should be more original. You like looking a pretty colors through kaleidoscope glasses? grrr you will watch the laser show and only the laser show and you will like it. You are doing something to counteract the affects of taking a drug? grrr you look silly. You are 16 years old and having fun at a rave? grrr you should be at a house party being felt up by your drunk boyfriend plus no one likes edm. You are using an over the counter drug with minimal side effects to have fun? grrr you should drink alcohol like the rest of us. You're having fun in a way that I don't enjoy? grrr you should enjoy exactly what I do. You're doing something that is popular? grrr you must do something that no one has heard of before.

What is wrong with going out, dressing how you like, and having fun?

If you have a problem with the nature of the scene then get off your judgmental ass and do something positive. If you want people to be more original with their costumes then you should cheer the people with the original costumes not jeer the people with the normal ones. If you want more people to dance liquid then share a video explaining how to liquid.

I put a lot into my rave gear I have entire hand painted outfits that glow in the dark, other people put a lot into their dance moves, others learn to spin glow toys, and the rest just want to have fun in a positive environment. As long as they are participating, having fun, and not messing with you; what the hell is the problem?

Personally, my favorite person to see is a someone who looks just like any other raver, but they are dancing like their life is depending on it. They only have three moves, but by god they are going to do them as hard as they can until they fall over.

auria.amin1
auria.amin1

 What a stupid list. 

1. Who gives a shit. Some people like it and it feels nice, some people don't. Get over it

2. This is the only one I will somewhat agree on. Although I think it's stupid, again, who gives a shit. Let them be. 

3.Not sure why you're hating on the glasses. They're cool to wear for a bit and they make the already cool light even cooler. Do you actually think people wear these for the duration of a show?

4. I agree the tutu thing is cliche, but you're pretty much saying every girl does this. From all the events I've been to I've seen some awesome and really creative costumes/outfits from both guys and girls. This culture is about being free, letting go and being able to express yourself however you want and in a way you may not be able to in every day life. If someone wants to do that by wearing a tutu, then let them be. I understand there's people just trying to be attention whores, but not everyone that goes to these shows is like that. You seem to have this elitist, holier than thou attitude and it makes you sound like a huge bitch.

5. What I said about #4 applies to this as well

6. Have you ever thought that maybe it gets hot when you're at a show and that's why guys wear tanks? Sure I wear tanks to shows sometimes, and maybe part of the reason is for showing off my "well-toned arms" (who wouldn't honestly, come on) but I definitely do not consider myself a "bro." Of course there are douchey bros at shows, but really not that many. Most of the tank bros I run into are pretty nice guys who are just there to have a good time. Again, stop putting a whole culture into these stupid categories. 

7. First of all, I'm not really sure what you're bitching about here. Also, I'm not sure why you think only 16 year olds like this "build and drop formula." That formula is pretty much the basis of house music. "They're the only ones still excited to see some of these acts, because the rest of us have seen them more times than we can count. Without the wide-eyed first-timers, EDM's basically got nothing." Really? So all the other people at the show are just there to jack off or what? You are obviously completely clueless and have no idea what you're talking about.

8. Again, not sure why you're bitching about this. There are a lot of people who take gloving seriously, and are really good at it. An "edm" show is the best place for them to come show their skills to the many thousands of people who are willing to watch. They love to do it, and people love to watch it. Remind me again how this is bad in any way? 

9. Nothing worth commenting on

10. My reply no #4 kind of applies to this as well. If someone wants to express themselves by wearing kandi then let them be. Yea there's those "kandi kids" that really over do it, but it all really  comes down to who gives any sort of a fuck? Move on

 Obviously there's people at these shows who do stupid shit. Yea there's that drunk bro walking around trying to start shit with people. Yea, there's that dumb bitch who's dressed in nothing bit a thong and pasties to get attention, but there are way more people who AREN'T like that. Most of the people that I encounter are really nice, genuine and friendly. Everyone is there to listen to some amazing music and just spread the love. You just sound like a salty bitch who has a stick up her ass. If you don't like what's going on at these shows, then don't go! Wow. So simple. Let the rest of us enjoy the amazing people and the amazing artists who come and play great music. I may have gone a little overkill with this reply, but I felt like it need to be said. Also Kat, I've read your other articles, and they are just as mindless and retarded as this one. Please don't quit your day job. If this is your day job then....just...go home.

argument
argument

Ugh, the vicks thing. Vicks makes my nose and eyes burn like crazy. I don't understand how people like that stuff. My least favorite is when some stupid raver rolling off their rocker comes up to me and sticks their vicks-soaked bandanna in my face, rendering me blind for a minute. Thanks, dude. Even worse is when they stick those inhaler things up my nose, completely uninvited. Now, not only is my nose on fire, but I've now shared germs with you and all of your friends. Great.

haha
haha

lol good list. missing girls withs flower headbands. also missing fuzzies !

lawl
lawl

Kat find another profession. I know you think having haters is a good thing, but it's not. Your ideas are cliche and trite as is your writing. 

thtatguyusa
thtatguyusa

Totally agree.  I was at Basslights and was shocked by: A)the average underage of attendees, B) where did the liquid go? and C) The invasion of the bros....It made me feel old, and these newer trends just plain suck, and make crap DJ's with no production talent popular!

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Natasha Rico
Natasha Rico

And here I thought the whole rave thing was over by 1997. And I mean played out, buried, and dead.

erikfab30
erikfab30

Oh, and another thing. Your obsession with drugs and drug culture is borderline embarrassing. All one need do is to search back in your archives to see how much you salivate over that shit and this is coming from someone who is no stranger to drugs, believe me. Crossfade, ostensibly, is about music. While I don't need an explanation that raunch and drug use is inexorably tied to the culture dating back to the Jazz Era, I rarely read anything that approaches journalism in this blog or whatever it pretends to be. You give us nothing but empty calories and little to no substance. Can't wait for next weeks entry!

erikfab30
erikfab30

While undeniably amusing and observant, as a frequent reader of this paper, it seems like this exact topic has been regurgitated to death on these top ten lists. If it isnt a variation on this theme then its versions of the good ol' " You know you're from Miami when..." or the reliable " Top 10 Reasons Miami Is Better Than Your City" and so on and so on. If this is the best your brainstorming yields then its high time for some fresh brains. Stop being so damn lazy.

Karina Trovato
Karina Trovato

Inarguably, the entire 21st Century has turned into a big cliché :)

Aaron Matthews
Aaron Matthews

Nice, though, when I went to Ultra number 1, those things were kool to me. I haven't been to a rave in about 10 years, I guess if you have been into the scene since the 90's, it might get pretty old.

Freddy Albertí
Freddy Albertí

Ifs funny that a multimilion dolars budget festival like ultra is considered a "rave"...

mystikfae
mystikfae

theres actually a sizable liquid community spread across the globe, with a couple of annual meet-ups in the u.s. its a legitimate dance style...no glowsticks. see also: digits, waving, tutting, popping.

Damian Doss
Damian Doss

Rave culture is so fucking lame. I entered the sphere 2 years ago for the first time at UMF 2012 Miami, thinking that people would at least be getting physical with one another. Turns out all they wanna so is fucking hump trees and kiss them. I won't even get into my thoughts of the neon fashion trends and other bullshit

lawl
lawl

Should do a post of the 10 worst Kat Bein articles, but they're all bad so that would be hard.

Jake Pierce
Jake Pierce

"Tank Bro is the Ken Doll to Tutu Slut's Barbie." Oh how I

George I'doccupyThat Owen
George I'doccupyThat Owen

none of these are raves it's just a bunch of bros using words wrong/wrongfully labeling live nation shit shows. It's like calling grapefruits clementines. yeah they have the same qualities (rind, seeds, round, and grow on trees) but they are not the same. These events are like the pop punk of electronic music.... It's essentially a spin on warped tour which respectable groups would sometimes tour.

Alex Anico
Alex Anico

If you think Ultra/EDC/Tommorrowland/and every other huge money driven festival is a rave, youre not a raver...

John P Conley
John P Conley

The whole scene is really douchebag fever nowadays.

thtatguyusa
thtatguyusa

@George Owen I can agree to that.  Real raves are not marketed, and done in back warehouses without permits or a regard for anything but the music.  All else is commercialism invading electronic music

Nope
Nope

@Christopher Jorge, Bass Camp was the shit on Thurs. 

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