Black Angels on What's "Really F#@%ing Cool About the Freedom of Psychedelia"

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Since forming in 2004, Austin, Texas,' Black Angels have become the proverbial torchbearers of traditional psychedelia, wringing aural acid trips from the keys of reverb-soaked combo organs and droning sitars for the better part of ten years now.

But beyond an impressive discography of its own drug-rock masterpieces, the band has also dedicated itself to protecting and preserving the legend of current tour mate and nearly unsung hero of psychedelia Roky Erickson.

Tomorrow night, Black Angels will be filling Grand Central with its signature haze of echoes, shouts, and fuzzy guitars for what will undoubtedly be a time-stopping adventure through the depths of kaleidoscopically colored experimental rock.

We here at Crossfade were fortunate enough to gain an audience with frontman and multi-instrumentalist Alex Maas and chat about the band's live ritual, his work developing Austin Psych Fest into the "beast" it has become, and his backup plan to play professional baseball if the waves of reverb ever stop crashing for the Black Angels.

See also: Review: Roky Erickson and Black Angels, The Ultimate Psych-Rock Trip at Grand Central Miami

Crossfade: How is the road? I saw that the band had to cancel a show because of the weather.
Alex Maas: We've got all this crazy weather up north! It's been a crazy storm, and we're finally out of it! I'm in North Carolina right now, and it's perfect. We canceled one, but we never cancel shows. We actually didn't cancel it; the venue canceled it. We were at the venue, waiting to load in, and they were like, "Sorry you guys drove all this way."

Every time I've seen the Black Angels perform, it feels like everyone on stage is so deep in their own element that it becomes almost a ritual for the group. Is there a key to getting into that element nightly? And does the band ever fail to make it to that place?
You're exactly right. The word "ritualistic" is the spot we're trying to get. You're trying to get to that moment when you're just kind of lost in space, but you're intact with your instruments. How do we get to that point? I just remind myself that other people are there for the same reason, and like, I think feeling that sort of synergy kind of helps me get into it. It's definitely difficult. But you take like ten to 20 minutes before the show and just kind of be alone and realize the reasons why you're playing music.

If it goes shitty onstage and if things don't go well, it's tough. We're kind of hard on ourselves. But you shouldn't be, because there's so much humility in music. Why should we be up there playing music in front of anybody? Why do people care what we have to say anyways, you know? That's the humility behind it that kind of keeps you grounded. It's funny, because the smallest thing can kind of throw you off, say if you botch an organ part or trip on a cable.

I didn't really personally expect to be doing this when I grew up. I swore up and down, when I was 5, that I was going to be a professional baseball player, you know -- like every other kid in America. And if this doesn't work out, maybe I'll go back to baseball. Or be a private detective. [laughs]

I could see that. You would have to be on a team with Barry Zito, because he's definitely the most psych-rock pro ball player.
Thanks, man! On a side note, we played in Kentucky and the Cincinnati Reds were playing and one of the ballplayers came to the show, a fan of ours, and invited us to the game the following day, and they played a couple of our songs when batters were walking up. Like, you kind of hear that and hearing the No. 4 hitter walk up to one of your songs is, like, insane. It was kind of one of the biggest highlights of my life.

That's got to be a trip!
That was so crazy, man! Can you believe it? Imagine writing a song in your room, and all of a sudden, a major-league baseball player just shows up at the gig and then you're at the game and they play it at the game!

Especially for a band such as yours, which might be considered very approachable by serious music fans but might still be considered an outsider sound by others.
Yeah! I think people that are just now getting into it are like, "Whoa, they must be crazy," but people who have known us for a long time know we're all normal people. For someone just getting into the music, they don't know. They may have heard it on a television show or a movie or something and may be like, "Oh, they might be too cool for school" or something, you know?

As someone who helps curate Austin Psych Fest and plays in such a high-profile psych band, how do you feel about the difference between artists that are innovating in the genre and artists that are doing very vintage-specific sounds? In a genre like psychedelia, where there are really no boundaries, it feels as if a lot of bands seem to be biting old bands these days.
I guess it depends on the context in which they do it. If they do it on accident or if they do it on purpose. John Lennon would intentionally make a Chuck Berry song sound completely different and it would still sound like the Beatles, but you could still tell it was Chuck Berry. He would rip off Chuck Berry in a very smart, very genius kind of way.

Some people do it in a way where they just know that they like the song and they want to make something that sounds just like it, but it doesn't sound unique to themselves. I don't even know how exactly to go about doing that, but it's a difficult thing because you have your influences, but also there are so many other influences. Psychedelia is one influence of mine, right? But, so is early American folk music, and so is Native American music, and so is music from the Southeastern Pacific Islands, and so is hip-hop.

So, as far as that goes, I pretty much love all kinds of music, and my favorite thing to do is cross all of that shit into psychedelia and make it all kind of work, make it all fit. There is something really fucking cool about the freedom of psychedelia. Like you said, the no-boundaries part. But because there are no boundaries, you almost have to make boundaries. Does this sound like I could rob a bank to it? Does this song fit the guitar riff? Does this song feel like we're running through Cambodia right now? There wouldn't be synths in Cambodia in 1962; therefore, there's not going to be synths in our music. I'm not hating on synths, but it's like the idea is to take something and make it your own.

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