UM Law Professor Mary Anne Franks Issues Epic Feminist Beatdown on Vice Founder Gavin McInnes

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When you think of great feminist triumphs, Miami isn't exactly the first place that springs to mind. But in a Huffington Post discussion that's gone viral this week, University of Miami law professor Mary Anne Franks made the women of South Florida proud by cooly and coherently rejecting the sexist ravings and insults hurled at her by fellow panelist Gavin McInnes.

See also: Miami Student Holly Jacobs Fights Revenge Porn

Perhaps it wasn't fair to pit McInnes against Franks, who graduated from Harvard Law School and was a Bigelow Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School before joining the UM faculty. (She has also offered comment in recent New Times articles, including Michael E. Miller's recent coverage of revenge porn in Florida.)

McInnes, meanwhile, founded Vice magazine in 2008. Wikipedia calls him "the godfather of hipsterdom." D.C. blog Wonkette, perhaps more aptly, calls him a "sad aging beardo hipster." Either way, his comments in the HuffPo discussion were vile enough to make hipsters everywhere shave their faces and relinquish their funny glasses:


To sum up McInnes' points:

  • Evolution means women should stay home and have babies.
  • Feminism hurts women.
  • Male violence feeds hungry babies.
  • Parenting (uh, "shaping lives") is the greatest job in the world -- but men can't do it.
  • Feminists are trying to force women to become men.

We've heard these sad, angsty songs before; they're rallying cries for so-called men's rights groups that have formed as a backlash to the progress women and feminism have made over the past several decades. Working women are unnatural because Darwin says so! You can't blame men for rape and violence, really, because it's hardwired into their brains! All women think one way, and all men think another way, and there's no changing that, so go make me a sandwich, honey, because it's your life's fulfilling mission.

Thankfully, Franks totally dominated McInnes in her responses to this nonsense -- even keeping her cool after McInnes charmingly called her a "fucking idiot" on air:

Franks: "Gavin is in fact presenting what is wrong with masculinity right now. It's this insistence that things have to be a certain way --"

McInnes: "I'm not insisting anything, you fucking idiot!"

Franks: "Oh. See, exactly. That's what masculinity looks like... Now, why is Gavin so scared? Why is he so frightened of the fact that some women don't want to have kids, some women do, some men want to take care of their kids, some men don't, and nothing should be frightening about that. The only thing people need to be scared of is people like Gavin."

That's only one choice gem in this lopsided debate. Do yourself a favor and watch it. Ms. Franks, you have made Miami proud.

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thesumpp
thesumpp

Ladies, the Ms. Franks got owned by this Gavin fellow.  Her calm verbalization of total bullshit does not convey wisdom or express intelligence.   Quite the contrary, in fact.  

Nicely done chap. 

carmenslade
carmenslade

He's a really special kinda guy, isn't he? So why should I have to tend the brown rice while you're off smoking weed at your drum circle?

Why do people like this get angry at women who ride motorcycles, fly hang gliders and other "unladylike" pursuits?

Men like Gavin, who quickly resort to calling people "fucking idiots" and deciding everyone who doesn't fit his model of behavior must be "unhappy" because, well, HE says so.

Gavin, you best turn gay, cuz I suspect the only women whose attention you can attract are expecting you to stuff a dollar in their g-string.


CheckpointCharlie73
CheckpointCharlie73 topcommenter

We need more educated lesbians to educate our children about what the proper roles of men and women should be. 

Kristofer Jesus Castellar
Kristofer Jesus Castellar

Yeah!! Respect my Financially independent Vagina!!! I don't worship GOD, I only worship My PUSSY!!! Bow down you chauvinistic Caveman, I have more sophistication in one OVARY, than you do in your whole body... You pig, I don't need you! I can scissor whoever I want, and have ALL the abortions I want, RAPIST!!!

stahp
stahp

wait.. so adopting the tactics Fox News uses when ganging up on one liberal is epic to you? 

Nicole Silveira
Nicole Silveira

are we REALLY happier and healthier as a society? i was under the impression we're more depressed than ever...

whatmenaresayin
whatmenaresayin

The feminist hate movement addicts have been living in denial about any of the harm, lost lives and the sheer misery they have caused to both sexes including children. They continually run off at the mouth just like that male-hater above does and refuse to talk about the abuse they have introduced by their efforts at forcing through laws that effects everyone on the planet. They are a bunch of spiteful, revengeful, vitriolic and nasty unbalanced women who are of the opinion that they are blameless. They are not.

Charlie_Foxtrot
Charlie_Foxtrot

If Huff Po had wanted an articulate and self-composed MRA to play the part of opposition in this conversation, they could have easily found one.  The fact that they chose this guy just meant that they were looking to discredit the entire movement in much the same way that Alex Jones is used to make the alternative media look like complete kooks by the MSM.

Frank Castle
Frank Castle

it was NOT a beatdown, she didnt say anything spectacular, i agree with gavin thou

robert.n.nielsen
robert.n.nielsen

Al Bundy...Where are you, we need you now more than ever!

FUCK FEMINISIM!

mcmoonery
mcmoonery

@Kristofer Jesus Castellar you're a virgin who can't drive right?

kim.holleman
kim.holleman

@stahp who exactly was doing that? you clearly are not watching the same thing everyone else is.

kim.holleman
kim.holleman

@@ you mean because of all the rapes, mulitations and ultra violence against women and children that men cause and also do nothing about? (catholic church is the most old fashioned/anti feminist institution on our soil, and yet look at how they treat their own parishoners children)


themidnightmatinee
themidnightmatinee

@Nicole Silveira 

 I'm sure it's nothing to do with the value of human life on the decline, our culture more cynical than ever, and those in power pitting us against one another in a divide and conquer strategy. 

We need a scapegoat. Feminism will do! Burn the witch!

mcmoonery
mcmoonery

@Charlie_Foxtrot there are no articulate or self composed MRA's.  The movement is discredited because all of them are a bunch of self important wankers.

kim.holleman
kim.holleman

@Charlie_Foxtrot Except that you are forgetting the majority of the alternate media and the people watching and funding it ARE ALEX JONES FANS. Just like the majority of Woman haters, hate women. You know?


CheckpointCharlie73
CheckpointCharlie73 topcommenter

@kim.holleman Yes, it is true. All women need to become hate-filled lesbians, and force little girls in school to learn the lesbian agenda, and emasculate the boys as soon as possible. This is the future of happy relationships.

Charlie_Foxtrot
Charlie_Foxtrot

@mcmoonery  Oh really?  Why don't you name-off a few of these "self-important wankers" for the folks on here who aren't familiar with the MRA community.


It should be easy for you since you seem to be so familiar with them.  And no mainstream conservative media personalities either-----I want to hear about people who focus primarily on MRA issues.

Charlie_Foxtrot
Charlie_Foxtrot

@kim.holleman  No----I don't know Kim.  You need to go back to analogies 101 because that was the worst one i've seen in my 40 years on this planet  :-O

The fact that you said that about Alex Jones shows just how little you know about the real alternative media.  People like Bill Cooper were talking about real issues long before Alex Jones was.


Expand your horizons beyond disinfowars and poison planet




whatmenaresayin
whatmenaresayin

@kim.holleman @robert.n.nielsen Standard response from another male-hater. When the topic does not go the way these privileged princesses deem it should, then start the personal insults and the verbal abuse. Typical feminist strategy. All pretense and no facts.

ProfMoriarty
ProfMoriarty

 @kim.holleman @CheckpointCharlie73 I have never killed anything that wasn't a mosquito or a horse fly.  I have never raped anyone, had fantasies of raping someone or even considered raping someone.  I have even taken part in anti-rape and feminist rallies, something I did by my own choice and not because anyone forced me to go.  As an archaeologist and conservationist, when I come across something ancient, my job is to study it, learn as much about the people who built it as I can and then preserve it for future generations.


All of your bigoted arguments are invalid and sexism goes both ways.  I'm sorry that you're so full of hate that you have to generalize and make wild accusations about half the species.  What a sad and lonely life you must lead.  Perhaps you would feel more comfortable on RadFem Hub or grovelling at Femitheist Divine's feet.  Then again, you probably go to both of those places already.

ProfMoriarty
ProfMoriarty

 @kim.holleman @CheckpointCharlie73 I have never killed anything that wasn't a mosquito or a horse fly.  I have never raped anyone, had fantasies of raping someone or even considered raping someone.  As an archaeologist and conservationist my job, when I come across something ancient, is to study it, learn as much about the people who built it and then preserve it for future generations.


All of your bigoted arguments are invalid and sexism goes both ways.  Perhaps you would feel more comfortable on RadFem Hub or grovelling at Femitheist Divine's feet.

kim.holleman
kim.holleman

@CheckpointCharlie73 @kim.holleman How can you even look at yourself in the mirror and be comfortable with being a man? You all seem incapable of anything other than rape and mutilation of anything valuable to good in life. See something beautiful? 'Let's kill it'. See someone beautiful? 'Let's rape it'. See something ancient? 'Let's destroy it'. Ah men, raping and destroying life since '00

kim.holleman
kim.holleman

@CheckpointCharlie73 @kim.holleman Actually I think it would be a lot better if all men were shot on sight, then we rounded up all the boys and simply kept them as stud seed, so we could control reproduction so we never allow men to have any power ever again. That way we could end war, no more acid attacks, no more raping animals, no more gang rapes of children, no more Catholicism (a.k.a. raping little boys for fun then covering it up for your bros), no more genital mutilations, no more honor killings.

kim.holleman
kim.holleman

@CheckpointCharlie73 @kim.holleman I think it would be a LOT better if we simply shot all men on sight and then controlled our own reproduction and kept men only as stud seed for our babies, nothing more. That way, there would be no more wars, rape camps, acid attacks, rape of the planet for money, and gang rapes of children, no Catholicism (no more raping little boys). 

whatmenaresayin
whatmenaresayin

@Charlie_Foxtrot @mcmoonery Dr Warren Farrell for one. That same good doctor that the University of Toronto Student Union feminists tried to shut up and shut down speaking about men's issues, feminists pulled the fire alarm to stop that dangerous conversation.. 

Charlie_Foxtrot
Charlie_Foxtrot

@kim.holleman What are you getting at Kim?  Are you actually trying to tell me that you'll only listen to other females?  Are you accusing the alternative media of widespread..............sexism????

kim.holleman
kim.holleman

@Charlie_Foxtrot It wasn't an analogy, it was sarcasm. Some things are lost in translation. Name me one solid female real alternative media figure that you can recommend and I will do my due diligence and I will read what you suggest. If you can not name a single female by those terms, then that should tell you something.

kim.holleman
kim.holleman

@CheckpointCharlie73 @robert.n.nielsen Oh I get it. CheckpointChalie73's mom was a lesbian and he's really really angry at lesbians now. Sorry your dad was a looser and your mom had to drown her sorrows in the love of women instead. lol

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