Pit Bull Ban Won't Be Put To Popular Vote Any Time Soon

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The current countywide ban on pit bulls seems safe from renewed scrutiny from Miami-Dade voters in the coming years. After an attempt to repeal the ban failed by a 63 percent to 37 percent margin in 2012, keeping the decades-old ban in place, activists say they've all but given up hope in changing the legislation.

"The people of Miami-Dade were trained for 20 years to fear anything with a big head and a tail that looks like a pit bull," said Dahlia Canes, the founder of the Miami Coalition Against Breed Specific Legislation.

The defeat in 2012 was too hard to stomach, she explained, and that it made the likelihood of another crack at beating it down at the polls slim to none. No electoral repeal campaign is planned for 2014 or beyond, she said.

See also: President Obama Doesn't Agree With Miami-Dade's Pit Bull Ban

"It was total devastation. That's how I would describe the feeling in the pit bull community," Canes said of the loss.

The ordinance, passed in 1989 due to the public cry over the savage mauling of an 8-year-old, makes it illegal "to own or keep American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, or any other dog that substantially conforms to any of these breeds' characteristics," according to a county website devoted to the matter.

Former Miami Marlins pitcher (before the most recent massive sell-off of the team) Mark Buehrle is one of the most prominent aggrieved former victims of the ban. During his time with the Fish, Buehrle had to live in Broward county and commute to Marlins Park because his family had a young American Staffordshire terrier. This sort of lifestyle-changing law is seen as damaging by some, and is not at all uncommon.


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larrytatet
larrytatet

Ezekiel 33:1
The word of the Lord came to me: “Son of man, speak to your people and say to them, If I bring the sword upon a land, and the people of the land take a man from among them, and make him their watchman, 

and if he sees the sword coming upon the land and blows the trumpet and warns the people, then if anyone who hears the sound of the trumpet does not take warning, and the sword comes and takes him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. 

He heard the sound of the trumpet and did not take warning; his blood shall be upon himself. 
But if he had taken warning, he would have saved his life.

larrytatet
larrytatet

An Ox be a Mutant Undog pit bull type dog by another name.................works for me, this should be the outcome for all pit bull type dogs and pit nutter owners, we should include this in the next proposed BSL here, there and everywhere.!


28 If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the ox shall be quit.

29 But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it hath been testified to his owner, and he hath not kept him in, but that he hath killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be put to death.

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Wednesday, November 5, 2008


LawDogsUSA, Pit Bull Detection Dog Program, Shuts Down
October 2008 Closure Notice

Olympia, WA - Back in April, we reported that a handful of pit bulls seized from the Pima County dogfighting raid were chosen to be "rehabilitated" as detection dogs. Diane Jessup, the owner of LawDogsUSA, was the recipient of these dogs. In October, Jessup shut down LawDogsUSA due to lack of interest from the "pit bull community" and lack of adequate funding.

"I had dreamed that LawDogsUSA would attract the best and brightest in the pit bull community and be able to grow larger than just me.

While I received fantastic support from a few, unfortunately the support and funding necessary to continue the program in a meaningful way was not forthcoming."
Fate of the Pima Dogs

The Pima County dogs did not work out either. She had selected three dogs for the detection program: Pima, Tucson and Arizona. Jessup writes on her website (please scroll to the bottom of the page titled: Update August 2008):

"It is with deep regret that I report that "Tucson" (the male) was found to have developed uncontrollable dog aggression. With no socialization or training to channel his drive during his critical period (21 days to 16 weeks) this pup would never...."

"Both dogs developed a very aggressive form of demodex mange - common in inbred dogs with compromised immune systems - and were being treated for that when I evaluated them for structural soundness. Both girls were suffering from severe..."

It appears she euthanized all three dogs. Interestingly, Jessup does not support "no-kill" or dumping pit bulls into "sanctuaries," which she compares to "above ground pet cemeteries."

She writes that the practice "amounts to a boarding kennel" and is the "height of disrespect for our noble companions." She feels that euthanasia in her own arms is the most humane option.

http://blog.dogsbite.org/2008/11/lawdogs.html

larrytatet
larrytatet

BADRAP surrenders to facts


"A lie can run around the world six times while the truth is still trying to put on its pants." ~Mark Twain

on May 20 @ 9:00am PST, BADRAP made the following proclamation:

It's Dog Bite Prevention Week. Did you know that there was never such thing as a 'Nanny's Dog'? This term was a recent invention created to describe the myriad of vintage photos of children enjoying their family pit bulls.

While the intention behind the term was innocent, using it may mislead parents into being careless with their children around their family dog - A recipe for dog bites!

http://cravendesires.blogspot.ca/2013/05/badrap-surrenders-to-facts.html

larrytatet
larrytatet

L.A. NOW

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA -- THIS JUST IN 
Lancaster's dog ordinance is cited in helping to drive down gang crime January 21, 2010 

A Lancaster ordinance imposing stiff penalties on owners of “potentially dangerous” and “vicious” dogs is reaping positive results, and may have even helped to drive down gang crime in the city, officials said. 

The law, adopted in January 2009, was primarily aimed at preventing gang members from using dogs, such as pit bulls and Rottweilers, to bully people or cause physical harm, officials said. 
City officials said that 1,138 pit bulls and Rottweilers were impounded last year by the Los Angeles County Department of Animal Care and Control. Of those, 362 were voluntarily surrendered by their owners in response to Lancaster’s ordinance. 

“A year ago, this city was overrun with individuals -- namely, gang members -- who routinely used pit bulls and other potentially vicious dogs as tools of intimidation and violence,” Lancaster Mayor R. Rex Parris said in a statement. 

“These individuals delighted in the danger these animals posed to our residents, often walking them without leashes and allowing them to run rampant through our neighborhoods and parks. Today, more than 1,100 of these animals have been removed from our city, along with the fear they create. Lancaster is now a great deal safer because of it.” 

Parris believes there is a correlation between the results of the dog ordinance and a drop in the city’s gang crime rate. Lancaster’s violent gang crime, which includes homicide, rape, robbery and aggravated assault, fell by 45% last year, and there was a drop in overall gang crime by 41%, Parris said, citing statistics from the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department. 

Under the dog ordinance, a hearing officer can deem a dog to be potentially dangerous, for example, if the animal becomes aggressive when unprovoked. 

The dog can be impounded, and the owner must have it properly licensed, implanted with a microchip and vaccinated at his own cost before the animal’s release. 
Dogs deemed to be vicious can be destroyed if they are determined to be a significant threat to public safety, according to the ordinance. 

It also requires owners of potentially dangerous dogs to ensure proper leashing and muzzling, complete a dog obedience training course, spay or neuter their animals, and pay a fine of up to $500 for each offense. 

Owners of dogs deemed to be vicious face fines of up to $1,000 per offense, and they could be prevented from possessing any dog for up to three years. 

Though city officials praise the dog law, some residents continue to challenge its fairness. They argue that “breed-specific” legislation is an injustice to canines, because irresponsible owners are to blame for a dog’s behavior, not the dog. 

-- Ann M. Simmons

larrytatet
larrytatet

The Truth of the Pit Bull type dogs genetics and the reality of the outcome of those genetics which are mauling's and killings like these:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhvYMRKjNlw
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Beyond the Interview: Father of Child Killed by Babysitter's Pit Bulls Speaks Out After Attack 'Believing the Myth is What Left Us Without a Son'.

http://blog.dogsbite.org/2013/07/beyond-the-interview-essay-of-a-fatal-pit-bull-mauling.html
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The Pit bull type dogs truth and genetic reality, watch and learn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt6FL6z1Nck&feature=share
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Fatal Pit Bull Attacks
Stop the Maulings
A growing archive of U.S. fatal pit bull attacks dating back to 1858

http://www.fatalpitbullattacks.com/
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Everything you ever wanted to know about the views of Pit Nutter, Pit Bull type dog apologists but were afraid to ask.!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=za7n_KNadMI
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This speaks volumes and in a nutshell reflects the reality of what animal shelters are doing throughout North America where vicious pit bull type dogs are misrepresented as family lassie or rin tin tin type dogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6s0NCgKKkk
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Country's, Cities, county's, Provinces, Military Services & Towns where Pit Bulls type Dogs are Banned or severely restricted:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/56495216/Estimated-U-S-Cities-Counties-States-and-Military-Facilities-with-Breed-Specific-Pit-Bull-Laws

larrytatet
larrytatet

Wapato, WA residents safer because of ban:


In 2008, the City of Wapato passed an ordinance that bans new pit bulls, rottweilers and mastiffs. Nine months after its adoption, in March 2009, Wapato Police Chief Richard Sanchez reported successful results: 

"Nine months into the ban and police calls about vicious dogs have been cut in half. The Wapato Police tell Action News they've gone from 18 reports in January, February and March of last year to seven so far in '09. "Seven calls in three months... that's nothing," says Chief Richard Sanchez, Wapato Police Department. 

Chief Sanchez credits local cooperation for the decline of dangerous dogs."

larrytatet
larrytatet

When anyone is evaluating research the first thing that should be noted is who paid for it. The second thing is who actually did the research, who do they work for, who signs the paychecks of these people.


In the case of the NCRC (National Canine Research Council)(http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/) the research is paid for by extreme pit bull advocacy, the AFF (Animal Farms Foundation). Who did the research? 

A professional breed specific advocate, Karen Delise,
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/about-us/staff/
she is an employee of the AFF 
http://animalfarmfoundation.org/) and is paid by Jane Berkey. 

(http://cravendesires.blogspot.com/.../fuck-you-jane...) 
(http://andfostermakesfive.com/.../animal-farm-foundation.../

When Karen is unable to identify a pit bull from a photo she sends the photo to Amy Marder 

(http://abrionline.org/expert.php?id=80

DVM, another individual closely tied to the AFF. 

"Research" created by and funded by the AFF should be given the same attention as the "research" funded and completed by product defense companies paid by Big Tobacco who went looking for "scientists" to deny the connection between smoking and lung cancer. 

The AFF is in competition with the tobacco lobby for shameless self promotion. Unfortunately, the AFF has a LOT of money and uses it to pay lobbyists to influence legislators.

larrytatet
larrytatet

The bullmastiff is a large breed of domestic dog , with a solid build and a short muzzle and is a Pit bull type dog with the same genetic makeup and danger of a pit bull.


The bullmastiff shares the characteristics of Molosser dogs, and was originally developed by 19th-century gamekeepers to guard estates.

The breed's bloodlines are drawn from the English Mastiff and Old English Bulldoggie.

It was recognized as a purebred dog by the English Kennel Club in 1924.

The Bullmastiff was a cross of 40% Old English Bulldog or pit bull type dog (not the short, chubby Bulldog of today) and 60% English Mastiff for its size, strength and loyalty.

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larrytatet

Marines tighten leash on pit bull policy.


By TERI WEAVER.

Stars and Stripes.

Published: October 5, 2009.

Each year, dogs bite 4.7 million Americans, according to Gail Hayes, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. On average, 386,000 of those bitten go to the emergency room. About 16 people die, according to the CDC. The CDC does not keep statistical data on bites by breeds, Hayes said.

TOKYO — Last year, a pit bull fatally attacked a 3-year-old boy at Camp Lejeune, N.C.

In August, a pit bull mix at Yokota Air Base in Japan climbed out of its enclosure at the base kennel, killed one dog and wounded another.

During the past year, military bases and privatized military housing began banning certain dog breeds and types.

Now, the Marine Corps has issued the first worldwide policy banning pit bulls, Rottweilers, wolf hybrids and any dogs with "dominant traits of aggression" from all U.S. Marine Corps bases and housing facilities.

The policy, issued in August, allows Marines and families currently living in base housing to keep their pets if they apply for a waiver by Oct. 10 and if their dogs pass a behavior test. That waiver will last only as long as the family remains at the same base or until Sept. 30, 2012, at which time all Marine housing and Marine-controlled housing should be free of any full or mixed breeds considered pit bulls, Rottweilers and wolf hybrids, according to the policy.

The policy comes as more local governments and public housing facilities are instituting similar bans, said Daisy Okas, a spokeswoman for the American Kennel Club in New York.

"We’re seeing breed-specific bans pretty regularly," she said. "We’re very against it. We look at how a dog behaves. It’s a frustrating topic."

It can also be a terrifying one, some say.

"It’s pretty horrifying to see the jaws of one of these dogs ripping into you," said Colleen Lynn, who was attacked by a pit bull two years ago and now runs a Web site, www.dogsbite.org, dedicated to tracking attacks. "It never goes away."

Marines living on a base where another service controls housing will continue to follow that base’s rules. On Okinawa, where housing for all services is controlled by the Air Force, Marines may keep their dogs in family housing, at least for now, 18th Air Wing spokesman Ed Gulick said last week. The base is reviewing the policy, however.

Tiffany Jackson works for Marine Corps Community Services on Okinawa and volunteers with the Okinawan American Animal Rescue Society, a series of foster homes for abandoned pets in the military community there.

Currently the network is caring for 30 dogs and 30 cats. Jackson is the only one who will take pit bulls.

She can care for three abandoned pit bulls at a time, and her house is currently full. Many dogs she sees had owners who wanted the dog as a token rather than a pet. That neglect, she says, leaves both their bodies and their temperament in need of much care.

"Yes, it’s an aggressive dog," Jackson said. "It takes a lot of patience and trust. It’s a step-by-step process. They learn you’re not there to beat them."

She’s been able to find new homes for all the dogs she’s cared for in the past.

Even though the ban might not affect Okinawa Marines, Jackson and her fellow volunteers are worried about a wave of abandoned dogs as news of the policy spreads. When asked what the Marine Corps is doing to discourage abandoned dogs, a Marine spokesman said that would be up to each base commander.

"I think the calls will come more," Jackson said of dogs needing homes. "We have already talked about it. And we don’t know how we’re going to handle that."

Waiver application deadline Oct. 10

Policies and changes.

MARINES

Under the Marines’ rules, anyone seeking family housing after Aug. 11 may not house a Rottweiler, pit bull or wolf hybrid with them, according to a Marines spokesman. Anyone in family housing before Aug. 11 with those dogs must apply for a waiver by Oct. 10.

The dog then must pass a "nationally recognized temperament test" by a certified tester at the owner’s expense, the policy states. The waiver must be approved by base commanders.

Owners of banned dogs will still be able to bring their pets on base for veterinary care, the policy states.

The ban covers mixed breeds, and it will be up to a military or civilian veterinarian to determine classification if registry papers do not exist, according the Marine spokesman. Installation commanders may ask for a base wide exemption from the policy, though that had not happened as of the middle of last week, the spokesman said.

ARMY

Early this year, the Army endorsed a similar dog ban at its privately run housing facilities, according to William Costlow, a spokesman for U.S. Army Installation Management Command.

There is no ban for Army family housing in.

traditional on-base settings, Army spokesmen said.

NAVY

The Navy’s policy allows that certain breeds may be prohibited, though local commanders have jurisdiction, according to Navy spokeswoman Rachelle Logan.

AIR FORCE

The Air Force allows each base commander to decide on the issue, and some have banned the same breeds, according to Air Force spokesman Gary Strasburg.

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Canine Corner

The human-animal bond
by Stanley Coren, Ph.D.

Dogs That Bite and People That Don't Listen
People often try to explain away misbehavior in children, dogs, and dog breeds.
Published on April 3, 2013 by Stanley Coren, Ph.D., F.R.S.C. in Canine Corner

I recently gave a series of talks at the All about Pets Show in Toronto. As often happens at such events, people stop me as I am walking around the hall to ask me questions, solicit advice, or to offer their opinions about various aspects of dog behavior or events occurring in the news that may have an impact on dogs and dog owners.

I usually enjoy these interactions, and try to be as helpful and open-minded as I can. However, sometimes (fortunately rarely) these encounters can be quite unpleasant.

dog bite aggression pitbull denial research science canine puppy human-dog bondOn the second day of the event, a woman accosted me and began to harangue me about statements that I had published about pitbull terriers. The statements which so offended her were reports of research published in respected scientific journals that found that pitbulls, and pitbull crosses accounted for a disproportionate number of dog bite related injuries and deaths.

I tried to tell her that I was reporting credible research findings, and tried to summarize some of the newer data that had recently appeared in behavioral and medical journals about the dog breeds that bite.

In most instances she did not even let me complete my description of the research before she rejected the findings claiming that the breeds were being misidentified, that data surveys based upon press reports were inaccurate or biased, that statistics underestimated the real number of pitbulls in the population, that other breeds like Labrador retrievers and Golden retrievers had a higher bite incident rates but these simply weren't being reported because of bias.

She also said that researchers ignore the fact that pitbulls are the dogs that are most likely to be abused and provoked by people, and she implied that that meant that many of their bites are justified.

I tried to give her some specific research findings to ask her if she could explain them using her own rationale, however she ignored my requests and eventually resorted to the ad hominem argument that I simply didn't know what I was talking about and I must have an irrational dislike of the breeds involved.

I must admit that I got frustrated by this, and rather than losing my temper I simply walked away to end the encounter.

As a psychologist I suspect that I know what is going on in her mind. For many people dogs fit into their family structure in the same way that children do.

There is a real bond here, and lots of love and affection for dogs in general and of course especially for the family's favorite breed of dogs. If a human child does something wrong it is natural for a parent spring to his or her defense.

I once watched the interview of a mother whose son had been arrested for shooting a shopkeeper during a holdup. Unfortunately for the shooter, there were security cameras in the store and near the entrance.

When shown the video of the boy and his companion entering the store, the mother claimed that her boy was being misidentified, despite the fact that he was wearing his high school jacket with both his name and team number on it.

When asked about that she claimed that the jacket must've been stolen. When another camera clearly showed the boy's face, she still claimed that it was not him, and the police had singled her son out for arrest based on racial profiling.

When the boys companion actually spoke his name during the robbery she was ultimately forced to admit to his identity, however she then went on to claim that her son was provoked into shooting the clerk because the clerk was threatening him.

However the video clearly showed that the clerk had his hands out to the sides and had stepped back from the counter defensively. This mother was clearly offering the human equivalent of the defenses that the woman in Toronto was giving as explanations and denials of reports of aggressive misbehavior by pit bulls.

People who know my work also know that I am not a fan of breed specific legislation, however, as a psychologist who has studied the genetic basis of dog behavior I also know that there are real differences in temperament across breeds.

Aggressive tendencies are part of those breed-specific differences in a dog breed's personality. When I encounter credible data pointing out differences in the temperament of various breeds I often report them.

I think they are interesting and important, and can help us to intelligently select the dog breeds which can fit into a family's living situation or particular service dog positions. Take for example the following bit of data.

Doctors Alison Kaye, Jessica Belz and Richard Kirschner studied 551 dog bite injury cases that were brought to the Division of Plastic Surgery at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia over a five-year period.

The victims ranged in age from newborn to 18 years. As is the usual procedure in trauma cases, as much data as possible was gathered about the event that caused the injury at the time that the patient was admitted.

One important bit of data that was collected in these cases was the breed of the dog that bit the child. What is striking in this report is the fact that of all of those injuries where the dog's breed was identifiable, 50.9% were due to pitbulls (55.7% if we include crosses).

The next closest breeds were Rottweilers accounting for 8.9% of the bites (10.3% with crosses), German Shepherds with 3.7% (7.0% with crosses), and Akitas and Cocker Spaniels each account for 3% of traumatic dog bites.

According to the available statistics the most popular breeds of dogs in the city of Philadelphia are, Labrador Retrievers, German Shepherds, Yorkshire Terriers, Bulldogs and Rottweilers. As in most large cities in America, pitbulls (defined as American Pit Bull Terriers, Staffordshire Terriers, and American Staffordshire Terriers) account for less than 1% of the canine population.

On the basis of these statistics alone one would expect that Labrador Retrievers would have the highest bite rate yet they are virtually invisible in this data set. Instead we find that pitbulls are responsible for more than 50 times the rate of bite injuries than what we would expect given their population numbers.

This is from information taken as part of medical intake of dog bite victims who are being treated for trauma. It is not based on press reports, nor does it represent some kind of inherent bias against square-headed dogs.

No matter how much one may love the bully breeds, these are facts that, like a surveillance video of a robbery which identifies a perpetrator, cannot simply be explained away under the cloak of bias or misrepresentation.

Stanley Coren is the author of many books including: Born to Bark; Do Dogs Dream? The Modern Dog; Why Do Dogs Have Wet Noses? The Pawprints of History; How Dogs Think; How To Speak Dog; Why We Love the Dogs We Do; What Do Dogs Know? The Intelligence of Dogs; Why Does My Dog Act That Way? Understanding Dogs for Dummies; Sleep Thieves; The Left-hander Syndrome

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http://www dot city-journal dot org/html/9_2_scared_of_pit.html


The pit bull's unusual breeding history has produced some bizarre behavioral traits, de- scribed by The Economist's science editor in an article published a few years ago, at the peak of a heated British controversy over dangerous dogs that saw the pit bull banned in England. 

First, the pit bull is quicker to anger than most dogs, probably due to the breed's unusually high level of the neurotransmitter L-tyrosine. Second, pit bulls are frighteningly tenacious; their attacks frequently last for 15 minutes or longer, and nothing—hoses, violent blows or kicks—can easily stop them.

That's because of the third behavioral anomaly: the breed's remarkable insensitivity to pain. Most dogs beaten in a fight will submit the next time they see the victor. Not a defeated pit bull, who will tear into his onetime vanquisher. This, too, has to do with brain chemistry. 

The body releases endorphins as a natural painkiller. Pit bulls seem extra-sensitive to endorphins and may generate higher levels of the chemical than other dogs. Endorphins are also addictive: "The dogs may be junkies, seeking pain so they can get the endorphin buzz they crave," The Economist suggests.

Finally, most dogs warn you before they attack, growling or barking to tell you how angry they are—"so they don't have to fight," ASPCA advisor and animal geneticist Stephen Zawistowski stresses. 

Not the pit bull, which attacks without warning. Most dogs, too, will bow to signal that they want to frolic. Again, not the pit bull, which may follow an apparently playful bow with a lethal assault. 

In short, contrary to the writings of Vicki Hearne, a well-known essayist on animals who—in a bizarre but emotionally charged confusion—equates breed-specific laws against pit bulls as a kind of "racist propaganda," the pit bull is a breed apart.

bullybob
bullybob

Larry in a post indicated the ASPCA had a study that shelters had no problem in identifying a dogs breed. The post indicated there was a link which there was not. I asked for the link. All I got was a list of half truths and a bunch of spam. Larry goes by names to make the hate movement seem bigger than it is. Where is the link to the ASPCA study...liar Larry....

larrytatet
larrytatet

Here's what dog behaviorist Dr. Radcliffe Robins has to say:

"Temperament is 100% genetic; it is inherited, and fixed at the moment of the dog’s fertilization/conception/birth.

Temperament in the dog cannot be eliminated nor transformed from one type to another.

It cannot change during the dog’s lifetime. It is the permanent mental/neurological characteristic of the individual dog.

Environment, socialization or training can MODIFY the expression of an individual dog’s temperament, but they cannot transform it nor eliminate it.

The dog will die with the temperament with which it was born."

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KEVIN COUTTS, Head Dog Ranger, Rotorua, New Zealand

There was concern among dog authorities about American pitbulls being allowed into New Zealand as they were dangerous, unpredictable animals, Mr Coutts said.

"A lot of people in this town get them because they are a staunch dog and they will fight. They are perceived as vicious ... It's frustrating they were ever allowed in the country ... we can't go back now though," Mr Coutts said.

COUTTS' comment on a pit car mauling

This sort of thing happens when people own this breed of dog and then don't look after them.

VICTORIA STILWELL, celebrity dog trainer

Presas are not to be fooled with, they're dangerous. You've got a fighting breed here. You've got a dog that was bred for fighting. You've got one of the most difficult breeds to handle.

CESAR MILAN, celebrity dog trainer

"Yeah, but this is a different breed...the power that comes behind bull dog, pit bull, presa canario, the fighting breed - They have an extra boost, they can go into a zone, they don't feel the pain anymore. He is using the bulldog in him, which is way too powerful, so we have to 'make him dog' (I guess as in a "regular" dog) so we can actually create the limits.

So if you are trying to create submission in a fighting breed, it's not going to happen. They would rather die than surrender.". If you add pain, it only infuriates them..to them pain is that adrenaline rush, they are looking forward to that, they are addicted to it...

That's why they are such great fighters." Cesar goes on to say..."Especially with fighting breeds, you're going to have these explosions over and over because there's no limits in their brain."

GARRETT RUSSO, dog trainer

I estimate Medical & Veterinary bills related to injuries caused by pit bulls in the Tompkins Square dog run in 2011, $140,000.00. Estimated Medical (human) & Veterinary (canine) bills from all other breeds and mixed breeds combined during the same period, $5,000.00. (Estimate gathered from reports to by owners to the dog park association.)

STEVE DUNO, dog trainer, pit bull owner

"The dogs that participated in these attacks weren't Pekingese. You don't have herds of Pekingese roaming the city attacking people. When someone says all breeds are created equal, well then they're denying the definition of what a breed is. Breed serves a particular purpose."

"I like them. They're eager. They're athletic. They're aesthetically pleasing. But even if they're bred perfectly, they can be problematic, particularly with other dogs."

"When you combine the breed specific behaviors ... with owners who either don't give a rip, or with owners who (have) too much dog, you have a problem."

JEAN DONALDSON, dog trainer

Most commonly, she sees dogs with aggression problems. While she's a fierce opponent of "breed bans" like the proposed outlawing of pit bulls that San Francisco debated two years ago, she believes it's undeniable that some breeds are predisposed to violence.

Many breeds that were bred as guardians or fighting dogs were carefully designed to not like strangers, she says. She thinks it's disingenuous of breeders to further enhance this trait, and then expect owners to compensate with training.

ARLENE STERLING, Newaygo County, MI Chief Animal Control Officer

"It is genetically inbred in them to be aggressive. They can be very nice dogs, but they are very prey driven and they are extremely strong. It makes them high risk dogs and it makes them extremely dangerous."

BOB KERRIDGE, New Zealand SPCA executive director

"That is the only real way to solve this problem - is to license owners and to give them the responsibility that goes with owning a dog. It would be extremely useful when you have a neighbour who is concerned about that dog next door. You can look at it and see they don't have a license and take it away. That's owner responsibility."

"We led the charge to stop the importation of the pitbull because of the concerns they would be crossbred with other dogs... But there's not a lot we can do about that because it's happened. We wish someone had listened all those years ago."

JIM CROSBY, pit bull hired gun

"Line breeding tends to concentrate recessive traits. The propensity for violent attacks by a dog would be a recessive trait."

MELANIE PFEIFFER, veterinary assistant

Working in a veterinary hospital, you are exposed to all kinds of animal trauma. One of the more common ones is dog fights. I can honestly say that in three out of four cases, an American pit bull terrier is involved. Many times, we are able to save the life of the afflicted, but yesterday, we were not.

I propose that all owned American pit bull terriers be registered and all breeding be halted indefinitely. How many mutilated faces, mangled limbs, butchered pets and even human deaths does it take to convince us that this breed needs to be phased out?

DIANE JESSUP, Washington pit bull owner and expert

"It's not sensible to get an animal bred for bringing a 2,000-pound bull to its knees and say I'm going to treat this like a soft-mouth Labrador," says Jessup, the former animal-control officer. She blames novice owners, as much as actual criminals, for bringing the breed into disrepute. "It's a capable animal, and it's got to be treated as such."

JOHN ROCKHOLT, South Carolina dogman

"It's inhumane not to allow them to fight. If you have to encourage them to fight they are not worth the powder it would take to blow them away. To never allow them any kind of combat...That's inhumane."

RAY BROWN, former pit bull owner, breeder, dog fighter

Pit bulls didn't become dangerous because we fight them; we fight them because the English specifically bred them to be dangerous.

MARK PAULHUS, HSUS southeast regional coordinator

If it chooses to attack, it's the most ferocious of all dogs. I've never known of a pit bull that could be called off (during a fight). They lose themselves in the fight.

F.L. DANTZLER, HSUS director of field services

"They're borderline dogs. They're right on the edge all of the time. Even if the dogs are not trained or used for fighting, and even though they are generally good with people, their bloodline makes them prone to violence."

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ALEXANDRA SEMYONOVA, animal behaviorist

You will also not prevent the dog from being what he is genetically predisposed to be. Because the inbred postures and behaviors feel good, fitting the body and brain the dog has been bred with, they are internally motivated and internally rewarded.

This means that the behavior is practically impossible to extinguish by manipulating external environmental stimuli.

The reward is not in the environment, but in the dog itself! As Coppinger and Coppinger (2001, p. 202) put it, “The dog gets such pleasure out of performing its motor pattern that it keeps looking for places to display it.” Some dogs get stuck in their particular inbred motor pattern.

As pointed out above, this kind of aggression has appeared in some other breeds as an unexpected and undesired anomaly – the golden retriever, the Berner Senne hund, the cocker spaniel have all had this problem.

The lovers of aggressive breeds try to use these breeding accidents to prove that their aggressive breeds are just like any other dog, “see, they’re no different from the cuddly breeds.” But a cuddly breed sometimes ending up stuck with a genetic disaster does not prove that the behavior is normal canine behavior. All it proves is that the behavior is genetically determined.

"These dogs aren't killers because they have the wrong owners, rather they attract the wrong owners because they are killers." The 100 Silliest Things People say about dogs.

JOHN FAUL, animal behaviorist

Faul said they were dangerous and a threat to life. He said the pitbull was bred to be absolutely fearless and had a "hair-trigger" attack response.

"The cardinal rule is that these dogs are not pets," he said.

"The only way to keep them is in a working environment."

He said the only relationship one could have with the pitbull was one of "dominance, sub-dominance", in which the dog was reminded daily of its position.

ANDREW ROWAN, PhD, Tufts Center for Animals

"A pit bull is trained to inflict the maximum amount of damage in the shortest amount of time. Other dogs bite and hold. A Doberman or a German shepherd won't tear if you stand still.

A pit bull is more likely to remove a piece of tissue. Dogs fight as a last resort under most circumstances. But a pit bull will attack without warning. If a dog shows a submissive characteristic, such as rolling over most dogs wills top their attack. A pit bull will disembowel its victim."

"A study by Dr Randall Lockwood of the US Humane Society found that pit bulls are more likely to break restraints to attack someone and that pit bulls are more likely to attack their owners, possibly as a result of owners trying to separate their dogs from victims."

Jørn Våge, Tina B Bønsdorff, Ellen Arnet, Aage Tverdal and Frode Lingaas, Differential gene expression in brain tissues of aggressive and non-aggressive dogs

The domestic dog (Canis familiaris), with its more than 400 recognised breeds [1], displays great variation in behaviour phenotypes.

Favourable behaviour is important for well-being and negative traits such as aggression may ruin the owner-dog relationship and lead to relinquishment to shelters or even euthanasia of otherwise healthy dogs [2,3].

Behavioural traits result from an interaction of both genetic and environmental factors. Breed specific behavioural traits such as hunting, herding and calmness/aggression are, however, evidence of a large genetic component and specific behaviours show high heritabilities [4-8].

ALAN BECK, Sc.D

However, Alan Beck, director of the Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine Center of the Human-Animal Bond, favors letting the breed go into extinction.

“This breed alone is a risk of serious public health factors,” Beck said. “We are keeping them alive against their own best interests.”

Beck said while he does not advocate taking dogs from current and caring owners, he does feel that it has become more of a social and political issue for people than a health one.

“If these dogs were carrying an actual disease, people would advocate euthanizing them,” Beck said. “This breed itself is not natural.”

"It has this sort of mystique that attracts a population of people. Of course, most of these dogs are never going to bite, as champions of the breed will tell you. But most people who smoke don't get cancer, but we know regulations help reduce a significant risk."

"I know you're going to get beat up for this. But they just aren't good dogs to own. That's why so many of them are relinquished to shelters. There are too many other breeds out there to take a chance on these guys."

MERRITT CLIFTON, journalist, Animal People editor

There are very few people, if any, who have written more on behalf of dogs over the past 40-odd years than I have, or spent more time down the back alleys of the developing world observing dogs in the habitats in which normal dogs came to co-evolve with humans.

But appreciation of the ecological roles of street dogs & coyotes, exposing dog-eating and puppy mills, opposition to indiscriminate lethal animal control, introduction of high-volume low-cost spay/neuter and anti-rabies vaccination, introduction of online adoption promotion, encouraging the formation of thousands of new humane societies worldwide, etc., are not to be confused with pit bull advocacy.

Pit bull advocacy is not defending dogs; it is defending the serial killers of the dog world, who kill, injure, and give bad reputations to all the rest. Indeed, pit bull advocacy, because it erodes public trust in dogs and people who care about dogs, stands a good chance of superseding rabies as the single greatest threat to the health, well-being, and human appreciation of all dogs worldwide.

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STANLEY COREN, PhD

"A dog's breed tells us a lot about that dog's genetic heritage and makeup. Genetics is a strong determinant of personality. In the absence of any other information, we can make a reasonable prediction about how the dog will behave based upon its breed." p 84

"When we crossbreed, we lose some of that predictability, since which genes will be passed on by each parent and how they will combine is a matter of chance. Fortunately, there is some data to suggest that we can still make predispositions without knowing much about its parentage.

John Paul Scott and John L Fuller carried out a series of selective breeding experiments at the Jackson Laboratories in Bar Harbor, Maine. By happy chance, their results revealed a simple rule that seems to work. Their general conclusion was that a mixed breed dog is most likely to act like the breed that it most looks like." p 77

Dog trainers/animal control, Pit Bull breeders, owners, fanciers, experts

TRISH KING, Director, Behavior & Training Dept. Marin Humane Society

"There is no direct eye contact or very little direct eye contact. It is very quick and over with. Which is one reason why with pit bulls and rottweilers, we have problems. Because they're bred to do direct eye contact and so they are off putting to other dogs and actually scary to other dogs."

The fourth undesirable characteristic - arousal or excitement - is actually the most problematic. Many bully dogs cannot seem to calm themselves down once they get excited. And once they get excited all their behaviors are exacerbated.

Thus, if a dog is over-confident and has a tendency to body slam or mount, he or she will really crash into the other dog or person when he's aroused, sometimes inadvertently causing injury. He may begin to play-bite, and then bite harder and harder and harder.

When you try to stop the behavior, the dog often becomes even more "aggressive." In this way, play can turn into aggression fairly quickly. Research on the brain has shown that excited play has exactly the same chemistry as extreme anger. This allows a play behavior to switch quickly into aggression. And, once the dog has become aggressive a few times, the switch is much easier.

DIANE JESSUP, pit bull expert, breeder, former ACO

"Jessup, the animal control officer in Olympia, uses two pit bulls to train police and animal control officers on surviving dogs attacks.

Unlike dogs who are nippers and rippers, her pit bulls are typically "grippers" who bite down and hang onto their victims."

Jessup believes that much of dog behavior comes from their genes. “I truly believe that a dog is about 90% genetics,” says Jessup.

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This difference in “sheepdog versus bulldog” mentality in a trainer is best understood when training the "out!” or release command. It is common practice for those training shepherds and sheepdog types to use force such as hard leash corrections or electric shock to get the dog to release the sleeve.

Sadly, I had one young man come to me because a club trainer was slugging his little Am Staff bitch in the nose, till she bled, trying to get her to release the sleeve.

She would not! And of course she would not! She was a good little bulldog, hanging on for dear life, just as her bull and bear baiting ancestors of old did.

She was a super little gripping dog, who took the pain she experienced as just “part of the job” once her owner set her upon the sleeve. And this is the response from well bred pit bulldogs—to ignore pain while gripping. It is, after all, what they are bred for! Give me a bulldog like her, rather than one which will allow itself to be yanked off the sleeve due to pain.

MICHAEL BURNS, Los Angeles Animal Control Lt.

You have a dog that has aggressive tendencies enhanced through constant and incestuous breeding. If there are some recessive genes on the aggressive or psychotic side, they will make themselves manifest.

They are different. There's an absence of the normal sounds a dog makes when it attacks. It's almost a workmanlike way they hold on in an attack. It's a persistence I haven't seen in any other breed.

KURT LAPHAM, a field investigator for the West Coast Regional office of the Humane Society

Most breeds do not multiple-bite. A pit bull attack is like a shark attack: He keeps coming back.

DAVID GENDREGSKE, Clare County MI Animal Control Director

“In my opinion they appeal to the most irresponsible pet owners and to younger people,” he said.

“The younger people have no jobs to support the animal, or they have to move where animals aren’t allowed and (the dogs) end up here.” Certain people like pit bulls because they are intimidating, he said. “They want to scare people. It’s an intimidation thing.

They’re number one with those being incarcerated. If there’s a dog left behind (when someone is sentenced to jail or prison), it’s always a pit bull,” he said. He cited the time a pit bull got out of a car and attacked a horse.

He was pulled off, but he went back and grabbed the throat. He was pulled off again and again and went back after different parts of the horse. “What kind of a dog but a pit bull would do that?” he asked. “All dogs can bite but not with that ferocity. “ Some people will say that how a pit bull acts and reacts is dependent upon how the dog is raised, he said.

“But he was raised to kill for centuries,” he said. “You can’t breed it out in one generation.” If the popularity of pit bulls is a fad, it’s a long term one, he said. “I keep seeing more and more pit bulls,” he said. “It’s getting worse.”

Pit bulls, he said, are not good as a working dog, except for perhaps wild boar hunting. “And they’re not one of the smarter breeds,” he said, despite other’s beliefs that they are intelligent.

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BONNIE V. BEAVER, BS, DVM, MS, DACVB, Professor and Chief of Medicine, Department of Small Animal Medicine and Surgery, College of Veterinary Medicine, Texas A&M University

Executive Director, American College of Veterinary Behaviorists

By its origin, a pit bull is a fighting dog that takes very little stimulous to initiate aggression, and it will continue to fight regardless of what happens.

Pit bulldogs have been responsible for about 70 percent of the deaths of humans killed by dogs since 1979.

The AVMA warns veterinarians to be careful about supplying behavioural evaluations of dogs for insurance purposes.

"It's risky for veterinarians," said Dr. Beaver, explaining that there are many situations in which a dog may behave aggressively, and temperament tests can't rule out the possibility of aggression. "You don't have temperament tests that can identify all possibilities."

KATHRYN HAWKINS, DVM

After seeing another dog die from a pit bull attack, I feel compelled to write. The opinion that pit bulls are "mean because of the way they are raised" is often not the case.

A Both of the dogs I took care of that died were attacked unprovoked by pit bulls that were in families that raised them responsibly. Just as a retriever is bred to hunt birds -- an instinct you can't stop -- many pit bulls have a genetic tendency to attack other animals.

When they do, they are extremely powerful and don't quit. I have never been bitten or growled at by a pit bull -- they are very friendly. But when the instinct to attack another animal occurs, they cause serious damage, or death.

They don't bite people any more often than other breeds but when they do, it's bad. The aggressiveness toward other animals and damage they do is not because of "the way they are raised" -- it is usually due to a genetic instinct not in the control of the owner.

ARTHUR HERM, veterinarian, animal control

He said he disagrees with those people who believe they can train aggressiveness out of dogs, and added he believes aggressiveness is “inherent” and “genetic” in all dogs while pit bulls “seem to have more of that.”

MICHAEL W. FOX, veterinarian, animal behaviorist

"I spent 20 years studying the behavior of dogs and it's not in their nature. Man, has created a monster, If you wish...These dogs were selectively bred to fight, they have greater propensity to fight than other animals, which is brought out in training."

"They can attack people, and because the attitudes of Pit Bulls it is more likely they will attack people. The worry is the power of the dogs jaw...to bite and not let go. It's quite sufficient to crush right through a child's arm or leg."

SHERYL BLAIR, Tufts Veterinary School symposium - Animal Aggression: Dog Bites and the Pit Bull Terrier

The injuries these dogs inflict are more serious than other breeds because they go for the deep musculature and don't release; they hold and shake.

Colleen Hodges, Veterinary Public Health spokeswoman

Some families think that they can raise a loving pet if they treat a pit bull like any other dog. They may not realize that the dog was bred to fight and that some of these dogs may have fighting in their genes.

They are tough, strong, tenacious. They are much more capable of inflicting serious damage, and some of them do. I would not recommend pits as a family dog.

GARY WILKES, animal behaviorist

No other breed in America is currently bred for fighting, in such great numbers as the American Pit Bull Terrier. No other breed has instinctive behaviors that are so consistently catastrophic when they occur, regardless of how rarely they happen.

The reality is that every English Pointer has the ability to point a bird. Every Cattle Dog has the ability to bite the heel of a cow and every Beagle has the ability to make an obnoxious bugling noise when it scents a rabbit or sees a cat walking on the back fence. Realistically, if your English Pointer suddenly and unpredictably points at a bird in the park, nobody cares.

If my Heeler nips your ankle, I’m going to take care of your injuries and probably be fined for the incident. If your Beagle bugles too much, you’ll get a ticket for a noise violation. If your Pit Bull does what it’s bred to do...well, you fill in the blank.

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Behaviorists/veterinarians

RANDALL LOCKWOOD, PhD

Randall Lockwood, who said he has witnessed the best and worst of pit bulls, said illegal dog-fighting is perpetuating dogs that are hazards to humans and other animals. Shaped by dog-fight enthusiasts, they are "a perversion of everything normal dogs should do. What they've created is a canine psychopath."

"Fighting dogs lie all the time. I experienced it first hand when I was investigating three pit bulls that killed a little boy in Georgia. When I went up to do an initial evaluation of the dog's behavior, the dog came up to the front of the fence, gave me a nice little tail wag and a "play bow" -- a little solicitation, a little greeting. As I got closer, he lunged for my face."

The pit bull, in its purebred or mixed form, has been responsible for most of the fatal dog attacks on humans in the last two years. In 1987, there were eight deaths from dog attacks in the country, and seven involved pit bulls. In 1986, there were 13 deaths, seven involving pit bulls. But pit bulls have been victimized by hype.

The dogs are no strangers to ordinances. A pit bull ban was passed in London in the 1400s.

These dogs can be canine crocodiles. They have a dark and bloody history.

In the United States, pets are considered property in the eyes of the law. And one of the most hotly defended rights of the individual is the right to own anything, no matter how stupid or dangerous the choice — even when what someone wants to own is a threat to them, their family, and the community around them.

FRANKLIN LOEW, dean of Tufts University School of Veterinary Medicine

I'm not aware of any other breed of animal that has ever been singled out this way. This is man biting dog.

HUGH WIRTH, veterinarian

RSPCA Victoria president Dr Hugh Wirth said the dogs were a menace and were not suitable as pets for anyone.

"They are time bombs waiting for the right circumstances.''

"The American pit bull terrier is lethal because it was a breed that was developed purely for dog fighting, in other words killing the opposition.

"They should never have been allowed into the country. They are an absolute menace."

“The fact of life is that the community doesn't want American pit bull terriers. They've said it loud and clear over and over again - they want them banned.”

GRAEME SMITH, veterinarian

My views about associating a breed with dangerous behaviours were challenged over time as I saw the impact of Pit Bull attacks. Talking to owners with dogs of this breed who have themselves been turned on, it became clear that these animals are unpredictable and when they attack they can cause serious injury or death.

It is very hard to give Pit Bulls the benefit of the doubt.

Avoiding the identification of dogs and their behaviours by their breed means the legislation in place can be such that allows these Pit Bulls “one free bite.” This “one free bite” can have fatal consequences.

If it looks like a Pit Bull, it is a Pit Bull.

What’s at stake is the safety of people and their own pets in the wider community, there is no room for gambling with an unpredictable animal.

And that is so often the case. No one knows where these dogs are until they come out and cause some form of grief. My position is about protecting the public and other animals from these animals.

NICHOLAS DODMAN, BVMS, ACVB, ACVA

Rottweilers were originally bred to guard the money of peasants returning home from the city of Rottweil in Germany, so their fierceness was prized. Staffordshire bull terriers and pit bulls were programmed to deliver a full crushing bite to the noses of bulls. "They're locked and loaded," as Dodman puts it.

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But Dodman defends the practice. "The insurance companies have no ax to grind," he says. They base their decisions on actuarial statistics showing that certain breeds in certain homes are a recipe for trouble and the cause of lawsuits.

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After a spate of attacks by pit bulls this summer, Massachusetts lawmakers passed legislation requiring the dogs to be muzzled in public. Some pit bull owners protested, but a Tufts expert says the law may be a good idea. Breeds like pit bulls and Rottweilers, says animal behavior expert Nick Dodman, are hardwired for aggression.

“Some of these dogs are as dangerous as a loaded handgun,” Dodman– director of the Animal Behavior Clinic at TuftsSchool of Veterinary Medicine – said in an interview with The Boston Globe Magazine.

Genetics play a big role.

“No doubt about it, pit bulls are genetically predisposed toward aggression,” he told the magazine. “Justas certain breeds of dogs were bred to herd, certain were bred to hunt, certain to point, and others to swim.”

While most pet owners accept that their dogs have certain genetic behavioral characteristics, there is still resistance to the idea that some dogs are more dangerous than others.

“Everybody accepts [genetic behaviors like herding or hunting] until you throw in the word ‘aggression’ and things like a full, crushing bite, which some breeds were specifically bred for in the past.”

Statistics on dog attacks reinforce the link between certain dogs and dangerous behavior.

“It’s like a scene from “Casablanca” when they say, ‘Roundup the usual suspects,’” Dodman told the Globe.“It’s always German shepherds, chow, husky, pit bull.The numbers do the talking.”

He added that pit bulls and Rottweilers alone account for more than 50 percent of the fatal dog attacks every year. Despite the danger, the owners of these dogs often fail to take proper precautions.

“A lot of owners of aggressive breeds are suffering from denial and ignorance, because no one wants to be fingered as having that kind of dog,” Dodman said.

“Genetics does play a role and people who think it doesn’t are kidding themselves,” says Dodman. “The pit bull is notorious for a very hard bite. They are always No. 1 in the lethal dog bite parade. The dog was bred for pit fighting. It was bred to never give up, to bite and hang on.”

KATHERINE HOUPT, VMD, PhD, DACVB

Says Katherine Houpt, director of the Animal Behavior Clinic at Cornell and author of Domestic Animal Behavior: "Different breeds have genetic predispositions to certain kinds of behavior, though that can be influenced by how they are raised. The pit bull is an innately aggressive breed, often owned by someone who wants an aggressive dog, so they're going to encourage it."

“I have seen so many pit bulls taken by very nice, very dog-savvy people who did all the right things,” said Houpt. “They take them to socialization class, they take them to obedience school, they are fine for a few years, and then they kill the neighbor’s dog.”


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Myth #1: It's the owner not the T-rex


Myth # 2: It's impossible to identify a T-rex

Myth #3: Human-aggressive T-rex's were "culled"

Fatal attack statistics about T-rex's are false

The media conspiracy against T-Rex's

T-rex's are not unpredictable

T-Rex's do not have a locking jaw, they just eat you alive

T-Rex's used to be the most popular dinosaur in America

T-rex's pass the American Temperament Test

Punish the deed not the breed (of dinosaur)

T-rex's originally were "nanny dinosaurs"

T-rex's were once known as nanny dino's.

T-Rex's will lick you to death.

There's no need to muzzle and leash your T-Rex in the Doggy Park.

Don't forget to attend our 'Million T-Rex March' on The White House. President Obama loves T-Rex's and he thinks everyone should own one. Except him.

Its not an attack if the T-rex is wagging its tail.

There no bad T-rex's...only bad owners.

I've seen chihuahuas more aggressive than my T-Rex.

*giggles*

TSL has been proven not to work in Denver

Best babysitters ever....NOT

MY T-rex is the sweetest dino ever.

T.Rex's make the BEST Therapy Dinos ever. And are wonderful as Guide-Dinos for The Blind.

velociraptors bite more than T-rex's.

Let's set up a T-rex kissing booth for our kids.

Let's bring a T-rex into school and let the children read books to a perfectly trained T-rex

Let's bring our T-rex to the walk for the victims of T-rex's in Houston to show them they don't have to be afraid of T-rex's

T-rexBite dot org

Hey now...educate yourself guys.

My T-Rex likes coconuts!

you're all just racist against T-Rex's!!!

please leave t~Rex's alone my family had bred them for years and the only time i was bitten was by a pibble.

educate yourself you hater,I hope get mauled by a chihuahua.

t-rex make the best nanny dinosaur, its all how they are raised don't you know.

I will be posting this at the dinosaurs love kids and kids love dinosaurs.

don't you know the famous dinosaur barney?

president roosevelt had a dinosaur and fred flintstone.

helen keller had 25 of them.

wiggle tails?

educate yourself its haters like you that give dinosaurs a bad name.

come over to my house and meet my t-rex

awww you really hurted my feelings, Im going to go eat worms!!

My brontosaurus bites and my T-Rex never does. In fact the T-Rex is scared of him!

T-rex only bite if they're trained to

my vet says t-rex is the only dinosaur that doesn't bite

I have 8 t-rex and I'm a vet tech

I'am a vet tech too and i have a therapy dinosaur, it reads to kids at schools

64 kids crawl all over my t-rex, and he's never shown aggression

Get the FACTS!!!

there's no such thing as a t-rex

people are so quick to label anything 20 ft tall with a 5 foot neck and muscular as a so called "t-rex"

all dinosaurs have teeth

Their are over 30 types of dinosaur mistaken for a T-Rex, not only that, their is a media conspiracy against them. T-Rex attack stories sell.

My T-Rex saved my life; he roared at a bit of smoke & we evacuated the house. Last week I read that a T-Rex killed a child; that is SO rubbish - there is no such thing as a T-Rex! Get educated! I'm so done with this - I'm going to feed my T... I mean my Giant Lizard. Goodbye!

t-rex aren't real. nothing is real.

omg u ppl r so ignorent!!!!!!! i had a terradactle an that little basturd was way meaner than my t-rex!!!!!! only ppl who fight t-rexes make them mean an bite so dont judge the hole bread just cuz a few buttwipes train there dinos to attack i raise my t-rex with love an he kisses us all the time!!!!!! U PPL R RACIST AN U MAKE ME SICK!!!

t-rex built this great nation

ROTFLMAO!

You haters only have 153 likes. Our T-Rex breeders club has 4000! TAKE THAT, HATERS!!!

It's a nannysaurus!

Parents need to teach their brats proper kindness and respect around t-rex. ANY dinosaur has it's breaking point when TERRIFIED!!

Good news, T - Rex went extinct and no longer prey on communities.

T-Rex's are as safe as any other dinosaur. You guys are just racist.

more kids are injured falling down, so what are we going to ban falling down next?!!!

My T-Rex smiles at me every time I walk in the door. He even lets my two year old ride his tail. Was this T- Rex neutered??? This wouldn't happen if he was. Do not spew your hate towards MY T-Rex! Responsible T-Rex ownership 101. WE ARE WINNING. OUR T-REX'S ARE WINNING. SUCK IT HATERS

My T-rex pulled a baby from a burning building. He is the best nanny t rex god ever made. He wouldnt hurt a fly.

My T - Rex is an ambassador for the breed. He passed his T - Rex Good Citizenship test performed by my best friend and passed with flying colors. I bring him to dog parks and he is a perfect angel. He even loves cats!

my t-rex is gorgeous and sweet but would defend me to the bitter end

It isn't my T-Rex you need to worry about; it's ME. They might have culled the man-biters out of HIS lizard-lineage, but they let them live in MY ancestors! Grrrrr!

sorry to have to report this but

my T-rex just killed my Dino dog, it had always been sweet and had never bit anyone before.

The -Rex will be going to the flintstone dinosaur rescue farm for unstable dinasaur's

My t-rex is tattooed on my *#@!

omg did you vagazzle it too!?

My T Rex lets my 5 year old put press on nails on him.

My t rex only wants to love and kiss you all over . Lmbo

see you later i am off to see the T-rex fights tonight.

The owners need to wash the T-rex's before the fight so that proves they are safe? right???

T Rex's are not fighting dinosaurs!!!!!! Please educate yourself about the bread!

blame the deed not the bread

my great grandaddy JP Colby bred game T-rex in the 1920's

all your fat over weight pigs have nothing on a real all american game bred T-rex.

Darn Dino mommys

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What about this do Pit bull advocates not understand.???????????

over 45,000 killings last year is NOT acceptable, get it.!!

If 45,000 cars were killing a person or pet or livestock a piece then that car would be banned even if there were 5 million more of them that harmed no one.!!!!!

If there were 30,000 drunk drivers involved in incidents with over 17 million not involved
(over 1.5 million drunk drivers arrested every year in the US) as over 30,000 pit bull type dogs were involved with attacks last year, with 3,170,000 pit bull type dogs that WEREN'T involved in attacks?

Would there still be a BAN on drunk Drivers?

Oh wait..................Hummmmmmmmmm there is one isn't there, Ooops you be so busted.!!!

More then 70,000 attacks by pit bull type dogs last year against people, pets and livestock of which resulted in over 45,000 deaths of Human Beings, pets, livestock etc. by over 30,000 pit bull type dogs in those attacks with the number likely double this year that Kill, Maul, Maim, Disfigure, Dismember, cause Life Flights or trips to the Intensive Care Unit.

With a human being usually am child killed every 7 days this year, what about those numbers do you NOT understand Pit Nutters??????

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Royal Oak Ordinance Requires $1 Million ‘Dangerous Dog’ Insurance Policy

May 15, 2013 6:13 AM Royal Oak is about to unleash new regulations on dog owners.

The new rules, which go into effect Thursday, require owners of “dangerous dogs” to carry $1 million in liability insurance, post signs, complete an obedience class with the dog, and keep the dog in a locked, fenced-in area. Owners must also comply with seven pages worth of other requirements to keep their pets in the city.

Officials say a dog is deemed dangerous if it bites or attacks a person, or causes serious injury to another domestic animal. Exceptions include dogs protecting an owner or a homeowner’s property.

City leaders say they created the ordinance after receiving 32 reports of dog bites and attacks during 2012 in Royal Oak.

Royal Oak resident John Scott said the ordinance is a good move for the city, putting the responsibility on the owners instead of the dogs.

“If you’re a dog owner, you know that dogs are protective of their territory. There’s an old saying that there’s no bad dogs, just bad owners,” he said.

Lori Wosnicki, who has a Bernese Mountain Dog, she understands the reason for the new ordinance, but still thinks that it goes too far.

“Look at this dog, who goes to schools and has kids lay all over him. I have a really hard time with [the ordinance] because how do you decide what’s dangerous,” she said.

Violation of the dog ordinance is a misdemeanor offense, punishable by a fine up to $500 and 90 days in jail

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There was 5 fatal shark attacks around the world in all of 2013.


There was 1 fatal bear attack in the U.S in all of 2013.

There was 0 fatal alligator attacks in the U.S in all of 2013.

There was 2 fatal lion attacks in the U.S. in all of 2013.

There was 0 fatal snake bites in the U.S. in all of 2013.

That is a total of 8 fatalities by these feared killers listed above in the whole year of 2013.

And the trusted pit bull that many trust the lives of their loves ones with has killed 18 people so far this year in the U.S. and we are only in the month of May.

Sharks, Bears, Alligators, Lions, and Snakes are not the wild animals that are most likely to kill it is your beloved PIT BULL !!..........

gbb1013
gbb1013

Miami Florida banned pit bulls because it is a public safety issue.  Wish more cities would exercise some common sense rather than listen to the pit bull propaganda from pit bull owners.

Julie Anne Bertram
Julie Anne Bertram

Desiree lol that's so sad if you think THAT is one of the "best" reasons to live in Miami #pathetic #uneducated #moron

Cait
Cait

"This is particularly problematic in the face of a 2012 county commission action that made Miami-Dade a "Kill Free" shelter community."  Miami Dade Animals Services kills countless animals daily - so Miami is definitely NOT a "kill free" shelter community as this article states.

bullybob
bullybob

I would get my dog dna tested if I lived in Miami..  most of Mike Vicks so called pit bulls were a boston terrier mix. We have tested some of our shelter dogs and dogs that people thought were some kind of pit bull came back as a wheton terrier mix with boxer.

http://thebark.com/content/can-dna-decipher-mix

Chgo Dave
Chgo Dave

become part of your town council ?

Pedro M Ross
Pedro M Ross

Always see people with Pits Bulls in Miami, and I see plenty of Pit Bull mix dogs, and dogs that are almost of the same breed, such as American Bulldogs, Staffordshire terriers, English Bull terriers, Argentino dogs, and Bull Mastiffs, and etc. But, I never see the police ever take any action. The law might as well be taken away people don't follow it, and the police don't enforce it.

bullybob
bullybob

Watch or buy Cesar Milan. I love my pit bull....ago in the heck is this person. Cannot even hold Cesar's jock strap

bullybob
bullybob

Merritt Clifton is no loner editor and his research is flawed..

larrytatet
larrytatet

@bullybob


The ASPCA has no obligation to share safety issues about pit bulls with the public. On their "Pit Bull Information" web page, they write: "Sadly, pit bulls have acquired a reputation as unpredictable, dangerous, and vicious." Yet, spelled out in the ASPCA Shelter Guidelines -- designed to protect shelter workers -- are the unique risks attributed to pit bulls. One of them is that they "attack without warning," which is equivalent to unpredictable behavior.

From the ASPCA's The Care of Pit Bulls in the Shelter Environment:

There are "cases of experienced handlers who had developed good relationships with the dogs over a period of months still being attacked without warning or obvious provocation."

Pit bulls "ignore signs of submission from other dogs" and "give no warning prior to attack." They add that this is "different than normal dog behavior."

"Today’s pit bulls" have multiple names including: "Staffordshire Terrier (AKC 1936), American Staffordshire Terrier (AKC 1972, Am Staff), American Pit Bull Terrier or Pit Bull Terrier."

"These dogs can be aggressive towards humans and more likely to cause fatal attacks to people than other fighting type dogs."

"Pit bulls will climb fences, chew up stainless steel food and water bowls, destroy copper tubing of automatic water systems and conventional cages, and attack other animals through chain link fences."

"Pit bulls can break through conventional cage doors and destroy typical epoxy paint on the floors and walls."

"Pit bulls require special housing considerations" and "isolation from other animals if dog aggressive or have a high prey drive."

"Install a panic button in rooms housing pit bulls along with other restraint equipment in any room housing pit bulls."

It seems unlikely that the ASPCA or shelters participating in the "Adopt-A-Bull Contest" will tell potential adopters to install a panic button in their home or that pit bulls attack without warning.

larrytatet
larrytatet

@bullybob


When anyone is evaluating research the first thing that should be noted is who paid for it. The second thing is who actually did the research, who do they work for, who signs the paychecks of these people. 

In the case of the NCRC (National Canine Research Council)(http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/) the research is paid for by extreme pit bull advocacy, the AFF (Animal Farms Foundation). Who did the research? 

A professional breed specific advocate, Karen Delise,
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/about-us/staff/
she is an employee of the AFF 
http://animalfarmfoundation.org/) and is paid by Jane Berkey. 

(http://cravendesires.blogspot.com/.../fuck-you-jane...) 
(http://andfostermakesfive.com/.../animal-farm-foundation.../

When Karen is unable to identify a pit bull from a photo she sends the photo to Amy Marder 

(http://abrionline.org/expert.php?id=80

DVM, another individual closely tied to the AFF. 

"Research" created by and funded by the AFF should be given the same attention as the "research" funded and completed by product defense companies paid by Big Tobacco who went looking for "scientists" to deny the connection between smoking and lung cancer. 

The AFF is in competition with the tobacco lobby for shameless self promotion. Unfortunately, the AFF has a LOT of money and uses it to pay lobbyists to influence legislators.

larrytatet
larrytatet

@bullybob


The truth about The American Veterinary Medical Association's position on pit bull sterilization and animal welfare issues.

The AVMA position against legislation to mandate sterilization of pit bulls is subsumed within the assertion that, “Banning specific breeds to control dog bite injuries ignores the scope and nature of the problem and is unlikely to protect a community’s citizens.” This claim is, first of all, blatantly false. 

In truth, the few large U.S. cities which prohibit or restrict possession of pit bulls have had markedly fewer dog attack fatalities and disfigurements over the past 30 years than any others of comparable size. Also of note is that these cities––San Francisco, Denver, Miami, and New York City––impound and kill just a fraction as many pit bulls as those without breed-specific laws.

Bluntly put, the AVMA appears to oppose breed-specific legislation by way of pandering to the same “fanciers” who popularized “cosmetic” surgeries and were long a big part of many veterinarians’ clientele, even if they didn’t have many dogs neutered. 

Though dogs have bred prolifically without human help since long before the rise of human civilization, canine obstetrics has become a lucrative branch of the veterinary industry, for example because dogs often need help to birth breeds with disproportionately large heads.

larrytatet
larrytatet

@bullybob


There is NO DNA test anywhere that can reliably test for breed, only for parentage and specific identity, this according to the U of Cal Davis in CA.

larrytatet
larrytatet

@bullybob


CESAR MILAN, celebrity dog trainer

"Yeah, but this is a different breed...the power that comes behind bull dog, pit bull, presa canario, the fighting breed - They have an extra boost, they can go into a zone, they don't feel the pain anymore. He is using the bulldog in him, which is way too powerful, so we have to 'make him dog' (I guess as in a "regular" dog) so we can actually create the limits.

So if you are trying to create submission in a fighting breed, it's not going to happen. They would rather die than surrender.". If you add pain, it only infuriates them..to them pain is that adrenaline rush, they are looking forward to that, they are addicted to it...

That's why they are such great fighters." Cesar goes on to say..."Especially with fighting breeds, you're going to have these explosions over and over because there's no limits in their brain."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzZgqCcy7b4&app=desktop

larrytatet
larrytatet

@bullybob


He left Animal people which is still in existence by the way, to start his own mafazine.


His research and data compilations are highly respected and widely used in the media and by the courts on the subject of animals in general and the danger of the Pit bull type dog in particular.


Sadly one does not even have to search for the many attacks of these savage mutant undog's on humans and pets, there are literally hundreds of new incidents every day carried out by these disgusting creatures, here is another.

These are all major daily newspapers and network TV station accurate factual reports with direct access to Doctors, ER's Animal control officers, Police, the victims family, witnesses, the guilty pit nutters, all in news reports from major city newspapers and TV stations, as legit therefore as it possibly can be.

There is only one breed that has every been or is a threat to public safety and that is the pit bull, the sooner they are exterminated the sooner tragic attacks like the one below will be ended.

Ban the breed and end the deed.


http://www.animals24-7.org/

bullybob
bullybob

@larrytatet @bullybob exactly what I would say if I were a pit bull hater. If there were a tool that proved a dog was not a pit bull type but maybe a boxer, I would try to discount the tool.  You see the pit bull haters actually hate all large dogs.  They also make money off their hatered by having naive people donate to their cause.  How else could larry spend so much time posting BS..and this creep goes under many different names.

 When was this study done.. if you read the article it indicates clustering of genetic material was only recently discoved.  This was discovered at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center.

DNA is a powerful tool and it costs very little money to have your dog DNA tested.

larrytatet
larrytatet

@bullybob @larrytatet


Hey Pit nutter it is a fact, get used to it.

The technology to do such DNA testing simply does not exist, i didn't say it the experts did.!!

gbb1013
gbb1013

@bullybob @larrytatet He's right. There is no DNA test that can reliably test for breed.  Those DNA breed tests are as good as a horoscope.  HUE HUE HUE

bullybob
bullybob

Gee then Fred Hutchinson cancer center that discovered gene clustering knows less than you...ha ha ha. Dream on.

bullybob
bullybob

Exactly what I would right if I were a pit bll hater..u would find a lot of dogs are mixes of other breeds than the apbt

larrytatet
larrytatet

@bullybob


Genetic science discoveries for humans have NOTHING to do with canine genetics so as usual you have blathered and said nothing.!!!


Only a stupid Owner of dogs would own a pit bull in the first place.But even if the owner is not an idiot the pit bull is still a time bomb waiting to go off at any time for no reason, a land shark that no matter the training will express It's DNA and rip some unsuspecting kids face off, that is just what they are and what they do.

I am sick of hearing this blame the owner not the dog mantra, a.

ll that does is get the dog off the hook so it can do no wrong and is never held accountable or stopped from doing again what it has criminally already done.

Nothing is ever done to the owner and in with this mantra the dog is untouchable so both get off scott free when it has attacked someone.

Pit Bull's are naturally breed killers and have no place in a city or where they can interact with humans period.

The best solution to this is what happened in Powell River where a tan pit bull was drowned, most likely after it attacked someone.

The only good Pit bull is a dead one.



larrytatet
larrytatet

@bullybob


Dream on Nutmeg.


No matter what you identify them as or what you choose to call them if any dog has pit bull genetics in it then the outcome of said genetics are always the same, death, mauling's, crippled and disfigured victims when their DNA is expressed into reality which it invariably will be the case.

So you can call them something else to protect them but they are still pit mixes who are what they are and do what they do, who as a result have no right to ever come into human contact.

Pit bull or Pit bull cross, same difference same outcome same reality as to what they are.

And all Pit bulls or restricted dogs including pit bull crosses by law should have leashes and Muzzles which they never have and all to often you seem them running around as such unmuzzled, this is an even greater problem then them being unleashed and that is bad enough

Certain breeds like Pit bulls etc.are fundamentally evil in nature and action and do not deserve the freedom of action to carry out their DNA.

The point is, other dogs bite, Pit bulls and Pit bull crosses and others like mastiffs, Rotts etc. attack and kill and maim, that is the big difference in the outcome and should result in a completely different attitude towards these dogs and why they should be banned outright. The stats are very clear and accurate and show this reality even if you want to put your head in the sand, it still is what it is.

2/3 of the fatalities by pit bull type dogs in 2013 were the actual family members of the pit bull who had been raised from a pup in optimal conditions, these are facts that are documented.

gbb1013
gbb1013

@bullybob Sure, but most are not cross-bred for the purpose of dog fighting or creating a more efficient killer.

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