Fathers Are Allowed to Slap Teen Daughters on the Ass, Rules Florida Appeals Court

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A three-judge panel from Florida's 1st District Court of Appeal has upheld the right of Florida's fathers to slap their teenage daughters on the ass without fear of facing domestic violence charges. The ruling overturned an earlier judgement from a Tallahassee judge, who granted a domestic violence injunction against a father who had spanked his 14-year-old daughter.

The father, identified in court documents only as G.C., administered a single spanking to his 14-year-old daughter, identified as K.C., after she misbehaved. The father says the girl was being "disagreeable both before dinner and at the dinner table," so the dad decided to spank her. However, the girl said she was merely being sarcastic. She also claimed that her father had yanked her out of her chair so roughly to administer the spanking that he left a red mark on her arm.

The daughter told her older sister about the incident, who then informed their mother. The parents are divorced. The mother had a domestic violence injunction filed against the father, which a Tallahassee judge granted.

The three-panel court, made up of judges William A. Van Nortwick, Jr., Marguerite H. Davis and Nikki Ann Clark ruled that "the father's conduct constituted reasonable parental discipline and not domestic violence," and overturned the injunction.

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TealRose
TealRose

BTW anyone here know what 'discipline' actually means ??  No?  To teach.  Not to hit or thrash or scream at.  To teach - plain and simple really - with kindness and example children are learning to become adults.  You really like teaching them that hitting is the way to get your point of view across when you don't like something ?  Or that hitting a smaller person than yourself is fine?  Or to become ever more sneaky to avoid being hit rather than learning the lesson?  

Hitting is not loving - try asking any abused spouse, and hitting is demeaning and teaches a whole host of things that you don't want a child knowing.  Anger, hate, resentment an that the parents don't love them,and no, telling them you love them means nothing when you have just been hit - or it tells them they are not good enough to be loved ...  Love shouldn't be dependent on how a child behaves.  

Respect is a two way street.  Hitting is disrespectful.  You want respect as an adult - then EARN it .. become a parent not a sadistic warden.  

TealRose
TealRose

Disgusting ... so ... you hit someone who is rude or a bit cheeky do you ?   

Looks like he may have already done the same to his wife - and NOT got away with it hence his domestic violence injunction and yet, a judge, who ought to be able to tell right from wrong and have some intelligence thinks that what this guy did to a teenage girl was fine as it was 'parental discipline' ?  

It is well time that hitting was outlawed against children - as it is against the rest of us adults and animals.  Violence is violence and like most things 'starts at home' - we are not living in the middle ages and we should be acting better and treating our children better now we KNOW better. 

Emotimatly
Emotimatly

Not all children are damaged by this but many are.  Damaged I said, how?   They develope a sexual compulsive disorder called, a spanking fetish.   Maybe the father didn't have one, but he put his daughters sexuality at risk for a lifetime, that's more criminal than her transgression.  Our U.S. judiciary needs to take time off from cases and get more educated about the dangers of spanking from a psychological level.   They, our judiciary, parents, and religious institutions all continue to supporting a practices that harms some kids's sexuality and creates in some child sexual abusers all out of ignorance.  In some cases because they themselves have this sexual compulisve disorder and live in denial it motivates their choice to spank their children.  Disicpline and punishment are a part of good parenting but harming kids's sexuality isn't.   Our legal system will be the last one's to change, and it will take a morally and more educated public to make that happen via our national legislature to get our courts on the path of better child welfare than what happened in this case.   

Tom J
Tom J

You say this in jest, but the recent case of Polk County sheriff's deputy Robin Pagoria points to how this license to access minors' "bathing suit area" can be seriously exploited (see www.spankingcanbesexualabuse.o...). 

As a general rule, parents can also consent to other adults (e.g, teachers, boyfriends, pastors, baby-sitters, etc.) spanking their kids, or to other adults witnessing it, and it would be pretty naive to think that this consent is never sought nor granted with ulterior motives or even as outright quid pro quo.I wonder if the judges, or those here who side with this ruling, would at least be willing to exclude bare-butt teen spanking from "reasonable parental discipline." 

Amy Pospisil
Amy Pospisil

I'm just gonna come out and say it- Isn't 14 a little OLD to be spanked? Not to play Devil's advocate here, but it sounds to me like the dad overreacted. Sure, my mom spanked me- when I was NINE, and then only a single swat when she absolutely had to. Sure, I was sometimes an ill-tempered little brat, but my mom was surprisingly adept at disciplining me with a stern talking-to. I do think that spanking is sometimes neccessary, but come on! There's an age limit. I'm sure that it is not anyone's intent for it to be so, but after a certain point, it starts to get slightly creepy. 14 is too old for spanking. Serously. And over SARCASM? If my mom swatted me every time I was sarcastic when I was 14, I wouldn't have been able to walk. Granted, I'm still pretty sarcastic nine years later, but sarcasm is nothing to get bent out of shape over. And don't give me that 'it was disrespectful' crap. Teenagers are SUPPOSED to be sarcastic. They're teenagers! Shoulda just done what my mom did and talk to me until I felt guilty and realized what an asshole I had been.

Elialia
Elialia

Even though I hate brats IE kids. They are supposed to show respect to the parent they are with. Being sarcastic towards the dad is not showing respect. It is being the opposite - disrespective of said parent. This brat thought she should be able to walk all over her father. Which is wrong on many levels. Today's brats get away literally with murder. If she had lived even fifty years ago, she would not have contemplated this even. Parents today want to be buddy buddy with their brats when they are supposed to be parents. About time a father stood up for his parental rights. Now other parents should too. 

Grandpa Doug
Grandpa Doug

Finally some common sense from a judge no less. Didn't know that was possible.

Carl Miller
Carl Miller

ok i agree with the judge on this frankly if she was acting up and not listing frankly its time for parents to say enough and bring back out the belt or when my dad was growing up the switch and bust there butts weather there 8 or 17 kids now a days know thay can get away with anything and parents cant do a think at least a parent disaplining thee kids there is nothing worng with it and those saying its pedo or close to it we know what kind of minds you have had and what kinds of parents you clearly might have had i hated being spanked with a belt but at least i know as an adult it was for my own good

Acaringparent
Acaringparent

I spank my kids and I will do it in public or private. Most people don't like it but I have been told many times how reapectful my children are....how well behaved etc. And that is because they know if they act up they get 3 swats on their bottom. They are 10 & 9 and I will continue to spank as long as they can bend over and chose to act as they shouldn't. I agree if more parents would take the time to handle their kids they would not be out doing drugs, shooting people, dropping out of school and stealing. If some adult has a problem with it I will spank them!

CAMSHEEL
CAMSHEEL

How bad wias daughter acting  He just pulled the daughter by the arm.  I think i would just sent her to her bedroom..

Sean
Sean

This article is hot garbage. The headline is deliberating inflammatory and misleading. It's a shame more parents don't bother to discipline their children when they step out of line. It's good that the judges recognized this, but really this case never should have ended up in court in the first place.

dicey
dicey

Disgusting.  Those judges just authorized a whole bunch of sexual abuse against teenagers in households across the U.S.  Perverted fathers were just given permission to take their teen daughters over their knee and become sexually gratified.

Scretch
Scretch

And if it was a teen son this wouldn't even be in court. Dad wouldn't do it b/c he knows he'd get his butt kicked.

Guest
Guest

I think most father realize at that age they should not be touching their daughter's a**.It's just creepy. Find another way to punish them.

SK
SK

which is worse sarcasm,.. or violence? 

Spanky
Spanky

Pants up or down?  Could make some money filming the latter!

Jason271314
Jason271314

You're still a teen you really do not know anything reread what you wrote an if you don't see anything wrong with it then you need a realty check

Bill Haley
Bill Haley

No. What's disgusting is panty waits like you thinking 100% of all parents hands should be tied because .5% are whack jobs. 

J.R.
J.R.

How is spanking your own child immediately sexual? Also, how much do you pay to be spanked when you go to your favorite back-page-of-The-New-Times alternative bar?

Adam Golden
Adam Golden

No true, people take everything to extremes, and in no way does legal corporal punishment authorize sexual abuse.  Stop sensationalizing and being ridiculous.

Sean
Sean

It has nothing to do with sexual abuse. He was disciplining his daughter. If more parents did that we wouldn't have so many out of control kids dropping out of school, doing drugs, and committing crimes. Try to read more than just the headline next time.

Bill Haley
Bill Haley

LOL. Your Dad must be a puss...it shows Skippy.

Scretch
Scretch

Really! She was "disagreeable at the dinner table"??pulease

guest
guest

And THAT'S why fathers should not spank teenage daughters. It crosses the line into creepy pedo-zone. 

SK
SK

NO DADDY I DONT WANT NO GOD DAMN PEAS

Adam Golden
Adam Golden

If a teenage girl is not acting right, you can threaten, extort, and yell, but a good swat on the ass really can make a difference and really send the message home.

Scretch
Scretch

The troops should pull out of Afghanistan, Dad!

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