Florida Birther Sues To Remove Obama From Ballot, With Support From Sheriff Joe Arpaio

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Remember when Donald Trump and his friends were all, "Obama can't be president, he was secretly born in Kenya!" Then Obama released his original birth certificate from Hawaii and they were like, "Never mind!"

If you thought that was the end of the argument, oh how wrong you were. The latest salvo from the birther movement comes to a Florida courtroom today, where a Plantation resident named Michael Voeltz will argue Obama shouldn't be on the ballot because his father wasn't a U.S. citizen. None other than Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio is in Voeltz's corner.

"Even if Obama was born on the Oval Office desk, he's still not eligible to be president," Voeltz tells Riptide.

Voeltz, a native South Floridian who works as a Toyota salesman, says he started researching the law after Obama's election and now "knows more about the Constitution than most attorneys."

Voeltz's argument, which Tallahassee Judge Terry Lewis is scheduled to hear later this morning, has become central to the birthers since last April when Obama released his original "long-form" birth certificate to quiet critics like Trump.

(Voeltz, it's worth noting, also continues to question the legitimacy of that certificate. "That's not a document that's been produced. It's a picture on a website," he says.)

Instead of claiming Obama was born overseas, Voeltz will argue that the Founding Fathers' definition of "natural-born citizen" was much more stringent than most believe. Simply being born in Hawaii isn't enough to make Obama a natural-born citizen, Voeltz claims, because the Framers intended future presidents to be born to two citizen parents.

In fact, the Supreme Court has never weighed in on what exactly the Constitution means by "natural-born citizen."

But the overwhelming weight of previous decisions goes against Voeltz's arguments. The non-partisan Congressional Research Service looked into the question in November, and found:
The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth," either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents.
What's more, lower courts have already looked at the same issues raised by Voeltz; in 2009, the Indiana Court of Appeals rejected a similar case and found that the term "natural born citizen" includes "any child born in the U.S."

Also worth noting, via Media Matters for America: Four other U.S. presidents had parents born overseas: Andrew Jackson's dad was from Norther Ireland, while Chester A. Arthur and James Buchanan had Irish dads; Herbert Hoover's mom was Canadian.

Voeltz says he knows his case may be a long-shot. But he does have an affidavit from Arpaio, the lightening-rod sheriff behind Arizona's immigration crackdowns. And Lewis, the judge hearing his case, is also something of a conservative hero: He played a key role in the 2000 Bush vs. Gore recount in Florida.

Voeltz's main precedent will surely raise some eyebrows as well -- he'll lean on Minor vs. Happersett, a case that found that the Constitution didn't give women the right to vote (and clouded the issue of whether those born on U.S. land are automatically citizens in the process).

"I would like Obama taken off the ballot in Florida," Voeltz says.

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Sdelair1
Sdelair1

You can't argue with crazy. It doesn't matter how many of these ridculous birther arguments are debunked and are proven false, another theory will be immediately constructed by these loons. Our only hope is that these people represent only a small minority and that they hopefully are not reproducing in significant numbers.

Marl444
Marl444

This story is factually incorrect. The Supreme Court has ruled, in 1874, that "natural born citizen" is the child of two parents who were both citizens at the time of the birth, and they they were all under the jurisdiction of the United States at that time. Barack Obama did not have to parents who were U.S. citizens, ever, at any time. 

Fredzep
Fredzep

mitt romney really is stupid enough to believe that jesus christ came to ancient america and changed his mind about polygamy .Even mitt is smart enough to know that obama was really born in the us

Fredzep
Fredzep

these morons are so predudiced that nothing you can say will make them into patriotic people who care about their country first.they would rather waste our hard earned tax money trying to prove an out right lie 

Fredzep
Fredzep

ill see you at the next kkk rally Ill be the big guy in the bullet proof bigfoot suite. pray for me in church but watch out for the rattle snakes and dont drink the coolaid you dont like Obama because he is black admit you are a bigot 

Fredzep
Fredzep

 I bet these idiots beleive in bigfoot

Fredzep
Fredzep

 lady liberty doesnt like hispanics either . i heard George Bushs'great great great great great great great great granparents weren't born in america

Fredzep
Fredzep

maybe you should join the morman cult and share your husband with your sister wives

Fredzep
Fredzep

i started to press the like button because i was laughing so hard at your stupidity

Fredzep
Fredzep

wow lady . you are insane

Fredzep
Fredzep

admit that you are a bigot .you dont like obama because he is half black .most of our founding fathers had parents born in other countries .

Fredzep
Fredzep

the sun revolves around the earth which happens to be flat .dont fall off the edge 

mcihael c weir
mcihael c weir

While people are arguing about whether or not Obama should be president, there is a much bigger threat looming. There is now a opportunity for  John Boehner to become president over this issue..

Rhonda Thompson
Rhonda Thompson

there is no tea party thats was the name the media gave us to shut us up we all know obama is a usurper when is onka going to be arested 

Amused
Amused

You are obviously a crank. President Obama has provided two birth certificates and the state of Hawaii has confirmed that they were accurate and valid which is why the states of Arizona and Mississippi have dropped their objections to his name on the ballot. Every time this has been brought to court, more than 100 times now, the birthers have LOST. Your so called "message" has been debunked over and over again. You are just to deluded to accept it. "You on the other hand are working hard to keep me and million like me from our constitutional rights of knowing who we vote for" If you don't like him, don't vote for him. I, on the other hand, know who I voted for and will vote for. Now please stop wasting my tax dollars because you can't stand the fact that a vast majority of Americans voted for President Obama. President Obama received more votes than any other elected leader anywhere in history. If President Obama loses in November then so be it, that's how democracy works. I'm not going to whine about Romney's Mexican birth on the internet :)

Nate Schmidt
Nate Schmidt

Dear lord man...  you really think you made a point?  Natural Born is exactly what Obama MAY NOT BE. You are obviously a shill/troll.  There is nothing wrong with viewing the docs you are afraid of.  Every court battle has been about OPENING the files now sealed by the million Obama spent closing them.   We will see soon enough just how much this country has been usurped.  You could call a handful of people without the credentials, wackos, nut-jobs. whatever you can think of...  however YOU and everyone like you are engaging in a debunked method of attacking the message , the messenger, NEVER THE MESSAGE. You are not amused.. you are scared...  you stating that you are amused is as fake and the Obama PDF BC. I am not too proud to admit when I am wrong...  If i am NO HARM DONE.  You on the other hand are working hard to keep me and million like me from our constitutional rights of knowing who we vote for.  Again it was OBAMA who released the fake PDF and it was OBAMA who approved the book-selling BIO.  If he was lying to sell books this would important information to have in choosing our next president. Move on ..  we shall see soon enough. Simper Fi.

Amused
Amused

You : "records vetted in a proper constitutional fashion" Article II, US Constitution: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."Do you see the words "vet", "vetted" or "vetting"? Me neither.  Arpiao has been under investigation by the justice department since 2008 and several of his henchmen have already been indicted and even convicted. He is indeed shady, and not particularly intelligent. Speaking of shady, what are the names of the "cold case investigators"? Orly Taitz is not only shady, she is incompetent and delusional. She has already been fined $20,000 by a federal judge.Your approach is infantile. You want to deny the rights of the majority of Americans who voted for him, who believe the state of Hawaii and their own eyes. A room full of journalists saw the actual paper document brought from Hawaii. A few shrill malcontents don't run this country but if whining in blog comments makes you feel better, knock yourself out."I will get over it after Obama shows proper and original documentation of his entire past since he has already represented his BC with an obvious fabrication."That is impossible because you won't accept anything that pops your delusional bubble. Keep it coming,  I AM amused :)

Sam
Sam

Glenn Beck raped and murdered your girl in 1980? Better call the Miami PD.

Nate Schmidt
Nate Schmidt

You logic is not amusing Mr Amused.  I am simply saying there enough Citizens in this country who want Obama;s records vetted in a proper constitutional fashion.  As far me counting on shady characters ..  you embarrass yourself and know it.  Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his cold case investigators are far from shady.    The various attorneys representing citizens in court are not shady.   Immature is your way of thinking as this would deny the rights of many americans to know whi this man is in the white house.  He published a fake PDF this fact is written on stone to anyone who is neutral and a critical thinker.  What is so wrong with looking at the records of the a man who has the nuclear codes?   I will get over it after Obama shows proper and original documentation of his entire past since he has already represented his BC with an obvious fabrication.   Some people can see through the smoke ..  and are NOT amused.

the twice chipped guy
the twice chipped guy

What is going on is he is gutting closer to finding out how very corrupt and dark our sheriffs department, justice system, structure is. A lot of people don't know how our government uses drugs on inmates. Set them up for arrest and take them in to custody forcing drugs on them. Many times the person is already been set up for a crime that they did not commit but was a patsy for law enforcement/encroachment and then they are put on a drug maintenance program that represses memory. Drugging these people out of there minds and taking them in before a judge ofter not remembering much more than their names. Sitting in court and being forced into plea bargains to go to jail to fill some job in a prison doing their laundry, making there underwear, fixing their cars, it's called the industral prison complex and it feeds off people. I know. Last May 6th through Aug. 25th I spent time in jail on false charges. I was given a heads up not to take the drugs. My memory has returned. They were forcing narcotics on me. 14 pills and needels when all I am is a type2 diabetic. Someones got to stop this. These healthcare drugging are at the core of the Guantanamo Bay experiments and the push for what they call mental health when it is not mentaly ill to not all be of one mind. We don't all bundle!   

Fredzep
Fredzep

why are you an inmate ?

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