Red-Light Camera Ban Advances Thanks To Two Reps From Miami

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Rejoice, everyone who frantically slams the gas whenever a yellow light pops up (AKA every single driver in Miami-Dade):  A bill that would forbid cities from using red-light cameras narrowly passed its first test in Tallahassee yesterday.

While Riptide supports any plan to ax the cameras, it's worth noting that the bill was sponsored by two representatives from Miami -- home to the worst drivers in Florida, if not the Northern Hemisphere. And one of those two reps is married to a man who's been hit nearly a half dozen times with tickets for blasting through red lights.

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The bill, which would repeal a law passed in 2010 giving cities the right to set up red-light cameras, was sponsored by Miami Reps. Carlos Trujillo and Daphne Campbell.

Campbell argued yesterday that the cameras unfairly target old, minority and poor drivers based on where cities strategically place them. But last week the Miami Herald ran her husband's Honda Odyssey minivan through the traffic court system and found the car had racked up five red-light tickets since the law passed. (Campell said she only knew of one of those tickets.)

Either way, the heart of Campbell and Trujillo's argument was that the cameras put traffic safety over the right to be innocent until proven guilty, since challenging the tickets is difficult, time consuming and often futile.

"We're willing to compromise the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution: the right against self-incrimination for self-perceived safety," Trujillo told the committee.

State law enforcement agencies argued that the cameras have made roads safer without violating any laws.

But Trujillo's argument has been successful elsewhere -- fifteen other states have banned them outright over the concerns. And Republicans on the committee bought into the argument.

The bill now heads to the House Appropriations Committee, which could send it on to the floor.

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GoogleUser
GoogleUser

Anyhow, these tickets can cause trouble, but it seems that ticket lawyers found some ways to fight them.

mellymoke
mellymoke

you have the right to face your accuser in court...i want to see a camera testify

Tony Miller
Tony Miller

There are plenty of studies that show there isn't a decrease in accidents but a change in type of accident. These are all about $$. If you think that $ goes to your local govt to pave roads or put police on the street then you haven't done your research. The cameras are run by an independent company. Your city receives a small portion. Then, when the cameras are found to be unconstitutional that same company is paid to remove them. The people that think being watched by cameras is a good thing are good little sheeple. Why not put drones overhead and make sure nobody does anything they're not supposed to... yeah, they're working on that.

Tom Blazejack
Tom Blazejack

Every study I have ever read indicates that they reduce accidents. And there are plenty of studies made by organizations independent of the operators. It's also worth noting how difficult, dangerous and expensive red light enforcement is without cameras. It is rarely pointed out that freeing officers from red light enforcement saves them a lot of time and frees them to be more mobile.

Steve Beson
Steve Beson

Ban em NOW. looks like these scameras may be on the outs.

jgcamp99
jgcamp99

Interesting, it's always this way ? When the biggest offenders become the leaders of the community, then all of a sudden it's not funny anymore. See when the system isn't fixed to where they are the big winners in the community. It really shows that when they play by the same rules andĀ held just as accountable and responsible, they really show their true colors, they aren't the creme de la creme of society. They're just self centered and egotistical, self absorbed, narcissistic people. This was hillarious:

"Campbell argued yesterday that the cameras unfairly target old, minority and poor drivers based on where cities strategically place them."

Pay your tickets lady, just like anyone else has to. Surprised licenses weren't suspended for non-compliance ? Where did that fail in the system ? Because that is additional fees to have driving privileges restored. While I'm not for red light cams per se, we've all had to live with them for several years now, when you get caught, pay your fine and shut up, there is no retroactive salvation for being a law breaker and Campbell needs to own those 5 tickets and pay them. Either that or surrender her license. No discrimination, just the same rules the rest of society had to play by.

Roy Gonzalez
Roy Gonzalez

I took a right turn at a red(perfectly legal) and was given a ticket for running a red light. I tried to fight it and was told it was cheaper to pay the ticket...PIRATES!

James G. Camp
James G. Camp

I don't think they reduce accidents, I think those that got into the accidents would have regardless of whether it was being filmed. What happens when the red light catches a motorist, but there were no cars coming ? Is that an accident or revenue generation, especially when the right on red was protected by the left turn arrows ? A lot of people fabricate cause and effect for their agenda. This was about $ 129 initially, the state had to change it's tune and then added their fee into it to get a 1st offense to $ 158. Me, I turn a few blocks and eliminate the red light cam intersection ? Are accidents happening elsewhere becasue of modified routes and driving behavior ?

Tom Blazejack
Tom Blazejack

I believe that if there had been a redlight camera on the corner where my sister was run over as she crossed in the crosswalk, she might still be alive. In any case we would have a record of what actually happened.

Cully Waggoner
Cully Waggoner

The only people that hate them are the people who run Red Lights. Slow down and obey the rules and you won't get a Ticket for running them. Running Red Lights is not worth the risk of killing somebody just because you want to get where you're going faster.

Bob Baxter
Bob Baxter

In Gainesville when a light turns red you wait for at least two more cars before you go.

Craig Chester
Craig Chester

Speed radar enforcement would be more effective. Already in place in 100 US communities and DC.

jgcamp99
jgcamp99

LOL, targets poor drivers, there are no points just a fine levied. So the cam has no way of knowing how many tickets or accidents you've ever had. Minority drivers, I know just as many white folks that have gotten tickets. Old drivers ? Another fabrication, go to a courtroom and produce demographic data to support any of these assertions. Drivers, young, old, regardless of skin color have been caught by the red light cams. The cam has no way of knowing that you are any given race, all it knows is that your vehicle triggered the camera. Smile for the camera Campbell, own your tickets and pay them.

oneofthebrave
oneofthebrave

@jgcamp99. The claim isn't that the camera is targeting people. It's the cameras placement. That the cameras go up in intersections in neighborhoods of predominantly low income, minority and elderly. By doing that they target these groups.

Jimbo99
Jimbo99 topcommenter

@oneofthebrave In Aventura, those cams are on high traffic roadways/intersections, Biscayne Blvd near the Aventura mall. The wealthy and poor travel that road, all ages too, even races. Anywhere on the planet earth is a discriminatory location based on her arguments. I don't empower that argument. In virtually every location, high traffic volume is the criteria that is common to those intersections. And people of all ages, income levels and races drive thru those intersections. That woman needs to pay her citations like every one else does. 5 citations the fee schedule increases. She needs to bring her checkbook and have her DL reinstated because that length of time she should have had her license suspended by now on a financial responsibility issue. The vehicle is in her name, regardless of the husband or anyone else driving it. I expect everyone to play by the same rules on this. Boo hoo, tough sheet for her. The fact she is a wealthier person and she or her hubby got caught there disproves her theory/argument/assertions.

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