A Jury With No Black Members Guarantees George Zimmerman Will Get Away With Murder

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Alex Izaguirre
The injustice that began with the murder of Miami Gardens teenager Trayvon Martin continues. As the trial of George Zimmerman, the man who shot the 17-year-old boy last year, gets underway in Sanford, I find it appalling that Seminole County Circuit Judge Debra Nelson did not allow a single African-American to sit on the jury or serve as an alternate. In fact, the jury is stacked in Zimmerman's favor. Five of the jurors are white middle-aged women. The sixth is a Hispanic woman.

Special prosecutor Angela Corey didn't fight hard enough to make sure a diverse group would determine the case's outcome. Benjamin Crump, the attorney representing Martin's parents, should have protested the predominantly white makeup of the jury. Instead, Crump told MSNBC that the dead boy's parents were "putting their faith in the justice system, and they pray that it doesn't fail them."

The reality is that the jury selection process was not fair to Trayvon. One of the jurors, B-37, a middle-aged white woman with lots of pets, described the protests and rallies in Sanford last year to bring Zimmerman to justice as "riots." She also admitted to having a concealed weapons permit at one time. She's essentially on Team Zimmerman and gets to decide his fate. Meanwhile, prospective juror M-75, a young black woman, was rejected because she admitted some of her friends attended the Martin rallies.

This trial should have been held in another jurisdiction. The jury selection proves it will be difficult to convict Zimmerman on his home turf.

He initially seemed to get away with the murder when Bill Lee, the Sanford Police chief at the time of the shooting, refused to charge Zimmerman with a crime, believing the bullshit story that the self-appointment neighborhood watchman killed Trayvon in self-defense. It took tens of thousands of black people protesting in the streets to force authorities to charge Zimmerman with murder.

It will be virtually impossible for five white women from a racist town to find Zimmerman guilty. His defense team is so confident it has the jury in the bag that his lawyer, Don West, began his opening argument with an inappropriate knock-knock joke. When Zimmerman is found not guilty, the verdict will to set Florida back to the days before the civil rights movement.

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djohn1201
djohn1201

cam.holtoe, no jury would convict are you kidding me what a joke here is the write-up of the case from the "great" state of florida:



JACKSONVILLE, Florida (Reuters) - Three days after a Florida jury found George Zimmerman not guilty for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, the Rev. Jesse Jackson visited Jacksonville to call attention to another self-defense case that he called a "travesty" of justice.

Jackson spent an hour in a jailhouse visit with Marissa Alexander, 32, an African American who was sentenced to a mandatory 20 years in prison for firing a warning shot into the wall of her home in 2010 to end a violent argument with her abusive husband.

"In one case Mr. Zimmerman kills a young man and walks away, free to kill again," Jackson said. "And Marissa shot no one, hurt no one, and she's in jail for 20 years."

Jackson said the contrast in the Zimmerman and Alexander cases exposed injustices in the justice system.

"We see radical racial polarization in the judicial system," Jackson told the Florida Times-Union. "That's a cause of great concern."

After meeting with Alexander, Jackson spoke with Angela Corey, the state prosecutor who handled both the Martin and the Alexander cases. Corey told him that Alexander's case is in the appeal phase and out of her jurisdiction, but Jackson said he asked her to use her power to see that Alexander is released.

"Ours was a moral appeal," he said. "This mother has three children. They need their mother," he said, noting that Alexander had already served the three years originally offered to her by the state in a plea deal.

Michael Dowd, a New York domestic violence attorney handling Alexander's appeal, contends she should not have been charged with felonies, but rather a misdemeanor, such as unlawful discharge of a gun.

Local leaders from the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and the National Action Network are calling for Florida Governor Rick Scott to pardon Alexander.

PROSECUTOR'S RECORD

When Scott appointed Corey special prosecutor in the Zimmerman case and she brought second-degree murder charges against him, some legal experts said she had overcharged. After her office lost the case, many legal experts said prosecutors didn't have enough evidence to win a second degree murder conviction.

When Corey first ran for office in 2008, the tough-on-crime Republican prosecutor promised voters she would pursue criminals to the fullest extent of the law.

Corey also garnered national condemnation when she charged 12-year-old Cristian Fernandez with first degree murder in the death of his two-year-old stepbrother. At the time, Fernandez faced mandatory life in prison if found guilty.

In the Alexander case, Cory charged the 32-year-old woman with three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon because her husband's two children were in the house during the argument.

Alexander's case received little attention when she was convicted, but that changed after the Trayvon Martin killing cast a new spotlight on Florida's "Stand Your Ground" self-defense laws.

Under the "Stand Your Ground" law, people fearing for their lives can use deadly force without having to retreat from a confrontation, even when it is possible.

Alexander, a slightly built woman, said her husband, Rico Gray, was moving toward her threateningly when she fired into a kitchen wall. He had previously been convicted on a domestic violence charge for attacking her.

Gray's two children were at home, in the living room. Prosecutors alleged that the shot endangered Gray and the children.

Alexander filed a "Stand Your Ground" claim, but a judge ruled against her because Alexander chose to go back into the house with her gun.

A jury took just 12 minutes to find her guilty of three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

Because Alexander fired a gun in the incident, Florida's "10-20-Life" mandatory-minimum sentencing guidelines required the judge to sentence her to 20 years in prison.

At the time, Alexander had an active restraining order against her husband and she carried a concealed weapons permit.

(Editing by David Adams and Ken Wills)


djohn1201
djohn1201

cam.holtoe, I am sorry again incorrect you but said when the confronted with an "assault" (use of the dreaded "N" word you are now educated from a black man is a joke, embarrassing on your part and NOT warranting a threat ("assault") on my part however let us not get off on a tangent) according to you a person "assaulted" I think you are confused and should google the difference between assault / battery can use a gun free of charge and no court in the country will convict really?   Again the black women right down there in the "great" state of Florida was beaten numerous times having called the police shot a warning in the AIR was convicted, and sentenced to 20 years in jail.  Your greatest legal system in the world is clearly broken, not blind and because of people like you and O'Really it will not be fixed your comments are ill advised  Again the jurors again who which the system should have eliminated say curious George went too far well when a person goes too far and someone dies it is Manslaughter plain and simple. . . 

djohn1201
djohn1201

cam.holtoe, let us show some respect for the dead and the Martin Family.  Hold on here a minute before I keep replying the blacks in this country and some whites are dis-satisfied with the legal system but you people think it is is greatest in the world to which now the story line these conservative nuts is using well 6 jurors decided case that is the system working great.  Really  we the other taxpayers NOT on welfare do not agree and are DIS-SATISFIED with the "system."  You never  attempted to explain different treatment in MVeck, and other great state of Florida case involving that women the victim of domestic abuse who got 20 years.  Now please answer my question if curious George the cream puff, pudgy guy as you stated could not fight or throw a punch what can was say about his INTENTION when he decided to "follow" the gym guy said it  I would personally had made him admit the curious George intended to shoot.  Self-defense is a spectrum deadly force is at the end as a last resort clearly you would agree if curious George could not fight he intend how to defend himself.  Next, your original comments about curious George's height and TMartin's again further demonstrates the mental state of a  coward because a warrior could careless his opponent.   I have specifically told you to google "fighting words" do not pass it back to me this ain't the O'Really factor but I will explain for educational purposes when a coward with a concealed carry permit uses the "N" word we know he ain't going to do nothing so the dreaded N word does evoke anything  but laughter he ain't going to touch me.  Obviously you have been, and do watch too much TV "idiotic box" stop making the silly distinction between the authority of 911- vs- the police who cares in your free time google interference with official acts.  As stated your so-called greatest legal system in the world is broken the judge should not have allowed these jurors to be selected they showed there TRUE colors no regard with the black dead teenager yet instead they so concerned with curious George SUBJECTIVE intent with the case should have been decided on his OBJECTIVE acts.   Finally unlike Shartpon, and Jeese I respectfully dis-agree no civil rights case this is just another  fool, coward with a gun (not weapon).  God Bless the Martin Family.  Goodbye. . .  

djohn1201
djohn1201

cam.holtoe, I am sorry you sound like those silly jurors curious is puggy who cares another excuse that makes no difference along with all the tea in China, Mr. Puggy as you said should have sat he fat butt in the car like he was told.  The jury said that Mr. Puggy like you went too far blah, blah, blah a million excuses but you all would agree if a black man shot a white 17 year old he would be in jail for life, i.e. MVeck got 2.5 years for dog fighting, and women in the "great" state of Florida beat up in domestic abuse case fired a warning shot in the air got 20 years.  So let us engage in a real conversation, the system is broken because everyday judges like this let juror on case like this curious George going to far is not an excuse but by definition Manslaugher, which cam.holtoe 2 GROWN men can get into a bar fight and the winner get MS.

djohn1201
djohn1201

cam.holtoe, Thank your for reply at least as I can tell it is not disrespectful just incorrect sorry as to the law.  First and foremost you need to simply google the term "fighting words" meaning curious George and people like him can not yell fire in a theater, or use the "n" word without invoking a response.  This case is a victory for the 2nd Amendment and all those cowards who like curious George can't fight, or throw a punch the cam.holtoe answer the question why did he get out of his car?  If a person can't fight, can't throw a punch then the predeter(mine)d to use a weapon.   And fyi it ain't a black thing I have many good ole boy country brother had curious George mall security followed them with snuff they just bought from the store and stop them they would have shot him end of story.  God Bless the Martin Family.

bengswin1
bengswin1

A JURY OF HIS PEERS PEOPLE. THIS IS THE LAW.

hernandayoleary
hernandayoleary

How right you were, a black juror is kicked off for having a friend attend a protest, but a white juror who owns guns and describes protest as black riot gets to stay on the jury. It was clear from the start how this would end.

blackbouncer
blackbouncer

I watched the trial and it was very apparent that the jury reached a fair verdict based on the evidence which was a landslide for the defense. When the next store neighbor that took the stand testified to what he observed the case was over. Also the prosecution should be charged for lying and withholding evidence. Alen Dershowitz had this case correct from the beginning. Over charged. Not guilty.

FreeAtLastFreeAtLast
FreeAtLastFreeAtLast

Zimmerman is free not guilty. I want to buy you a beer and shake your hand Mr Zimmerman so glad justice has been served.

djohn1201
djohn1201

I just can not believe how on point Luke is about the jury doomed they should have moved for a change of location.  Self-defense what a joke you two GROWN men can get into a bar fight a person dies and someone goes to jail for MS.  On Monday morning curious George should be receiving a civil rights indictment just like wez back in the 1960s.  Back in the 1960s gas was probably 15 cents a gallon, so with the financial issues currently facing America 15% of the people on welfare probably including the juror with 8 !@#$$% kids guess what we do not have time for this nonsense by curious George who was told which is baffling to me interference with official acts, obstruction of justice to stay his punk, soft @#$$$ in the car!  

djohn1201
djohn1201

Oh by the way only one person has stated the law like it matters in America but you people need to stop claiming self-defense and understand the law you can't not start a fight get your butt kicked then claim self-defense that ain't the law did work for the Lead of Iraq?   Luke and the arrogance of the Knock, Knock joke is so clearly correct.  I wish a black man would lay a finger on a white kid, it does not matter as Luke pointed out the case was doomed from the beginning because for educational purposes to remind you people to be black in America you must be "perfect" without flaws meaning the lead cop saying he believed curious George's nonsense, and the medical examiner who should be fired sealed the deal.  Peace be gone to you. . .

djohn1201
djohn1201

Obviously you ain't never lied about an all white jury and his people convicting curious George.  This verdict is as American as apple pie.  If a black man had shot a 17 white kid there is no way he would not be convict end of this discussion so let us change the topic.  Here is the question since the great state of Florida has set us back 50 years is the Obama administration going to charge curious George with a civil rights violation like guess wez back in 1960s.   Also, people need to stop saying this is the best legal system in the world it is not simply race based.   Finally, you people show some respect for curious George he is now a rich after the appearance fees, and book deal.   

MrSolo
MrSolo

Zimmerman is innocent.  Self defense, plain and simple.

Birddog6424
Birddog6424

What George Zimmerman is guilty of, is stupidity.

But even stupid people have a right to defend themselves when they are attacked.

Birddog6424
Birddog6424

Anyone who can't see from the evidence that he is not guilty is simply too idiotic, or too prejudiced to see the truth.

The pictures taken by the police show a man who got his @$$ kicked. Blood was coming out of both nostrils, cut and bruises all over his face and head, multiple cuts bleeding profusely from the BACK of his head, but not a single mark on his hands to show he hit anyone.

The evidence is clear. I challenge anyone to explain how he came to look like that if he was on top of Trayvon Martin.

ZUBU
ZUBU

Zimmerman is a dishonest killer who needs to rot in hell for killing a kid.

bigred5910
bigred5910

O J simpson murder trial 

10 black women 1 black man 1hispanic

tgatekeeper01
tgatekeeper01

Ok..why did the defense tell that stupid knock knock joke???? How embarrassing. And one prosecutor likes to curse for the heck of it. I've got a better knock knock..who is there? Curious George. Curious George who? Curious George got himself in lot of trouble!

tgatekeeper01
tgatekeeper01

No one will know exactly what happened between GZ & Trayvon..but I believe Mr. Zimmerman has some issues and I don't think its racisism. I so wish there had been a camera in the vicinity of the area where this happened. I feel GZ will get manslaughter. The HLN attornys have gone crazy and need a vacation..just saying. Also, the prosecution didn't prepare some witnesses and that's hurt then. I wish Trayvon would have ran to where his Dad was staying and told him what happened vs confronting pr waiting to see what rent a cop was doing. Sad for all.

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

"................the verdict will set Florida back to the days before the civil rights movement. "

based on the testimony i heard from Rachel Jentel,  FLORIDA is already way back somewhere beyond the CIVIL RIGHTs movement, maybe even back as far as the STONE AGE 

what does racism have to do with someone who is obviously on her way to a lifetime of serious health issues and being unemployable and obviously does not have a socially acceptable way to know how to act in public ?................it's all good in the hood ................. but what about when that person wants to come OUT - is civilized society expected to tolerate the illiterate and accept the unskilled ?

and as for the verdict do those PROSECUTORs realize that ms jentel is entitled to a TRANSLATOR ? why have a star-witness look unitelligible ? what does the JURY take-away from her testimony ? where is mr crump ? why wasn't this star-witness better prepared by council ?

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

headline; A Jury With No Black Members Guarantees George Zimmerman Will Get Away With Murder

first edit after listening to a few days of the trial; A PROSECUTION TEAM With STUPID Black WITNESSES Guarantees George Zimmerman Will NOT BE FOUND GUILTY OF Murder

why parade NIT-wits instead of witnesses ? and as far as ENGLISH as a second language maybe it's NOT JUST HISPANICs who need remedial classes in our county's primary language

is it just me or is this whole thing drenched in STUPIDITY ? maybe plain and simple the kid was just too STUPID to know to keep running away from fatman zimmerman

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

news flash............the kid was killed because of his own STUPIDITY, not race, not that the kid deserved to be killed but if he was SMART he would be alive today

FACT - the kid had DISTANCE between himself and zimmerman AND should have kept running away INCREASING with every step that distance = period = only a dummy returns to a conflict

had the kid kept running away there would have been NO ALTERCATION because a fat zimmerman could never have caught the kid otherwise - why the kid came back was as dumb a move as he could have made ESPECIALLY since the kid already had a significant distance between himself and zimmerman as a head start

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

"Special prosecutor Angela Corey didn't fight hard enough......................Benjamin Crump, the attorney representing Martin's parents, should have protested....................."

wait, aren't ANGELA CORY and BENJAMIN CRUMP both BLACK ?

do you really mean trayvon martin isn't getting the proper predominantly WHITE legal dream team like OJ did when OJ got away with a double-murder ?

i may be mistaken BUT didn't you yourself, uncle luke, have WHITE legal advisors back in the day  ?

this is another TAWANA BRAWLEY situation whereas BLACKs who came to the spotlight early on to crow about INjustice simply do not have the experience or knowledge or ability and are NOW proving themselves to be CHARLATANs UNable to carry justice through

ask yourself would YOU want Mr CRUMP or Ms CORY, as small town lawyer and a political hack REPRESENTING YOU in a case of this magnitude ? ! ?

WAKE UP,  PEOPLE !

kirkslade1
kirkslade1 topcommenter

I was picked for jury duty three months ago. I now live in Broward County. It was my civic duty so I went. Four years ago when I lived in Miami I was chosen for jury duty. Again it was my civic duty, so I went. I remember being bored while waiting in a large room. I started counting. I counted how many women, how many men. One thing was evident. Out of 400 or so people, about 30 were black. To get chosen Luke, you have to show up. You can't try to beat the system and  then complain when it bites you in the ass. I have only been to jury duty twice, but when less then 10% of the people make up a certain demographic, something is wrong. I also witness many of these people try to worm out of being picked. Then again, it has to be a conspiracy because that is the world that you live in Luke. It's a conspiracy that made you have 5 children by 4 women. It's never your fault. Right Luke? Next you will complain that blacks should be picked up and driven to jury duty.   

J Jess Jessi Abalos
J Jess Jessi Abalos

The judge doesn't determine who gets to sit on the jury, it's not the judge's fault that the prosecutor couldn't manage to get one black person on the jury. The population of Sanford is 32% black, they should've been able to get at least one on there.

cam.holtoe
cam.holtoe

@djohn1201 Fighting words?  You'd need to show me precedent and statute.. Yelling fire in a movie theater is not the same as insulting an individual ...   There is no law in the books that allows an individual the freedom to physically assault for being insulted (even the dreaded N word) .. no matter HOW FAR you try to stretch that.. one causes a threat to public safety, the other only hurts someone's feelings..  and it was never proven that pudgy was following tall for nothing based on race.. 


The car.. sadly, ignoring the ADVICE of a 911 dispatcher is not illegal.. they are not police officers.. so pudgy was indeed being a stupid asshole.. but being stupid a stupid asshole is not against the law.. assault is.. and if you get assaulted and respond with deadly force.. there is not a court in this country that will convict you.. 

cam.holtoe
cam.holtoe

@djohn1201 OK.. to start a fight.. you need to physically start an altercation.. Zimmerman was a short, pudgy spick.. no WAY he started something with a guy who towered over him.. 

Much as people like to say GZ started it.. in the eyes of the law, the aggressor is the one who brought it to the physical level.. so that is that.. 

If people have problems with that.. then they need to lobby their elected representatives to change assault laws to include the jagoff clause 

That states "If an individual feels insulted or threatened in some way without physical evidence, then he is entitled to attack said aggressor, be he real or imaginary"   

That will clear things right up

But no matter what you say.. the evidence in the case clearly showed that Martin initiated the physical offensive.. 

if you can disprove that.. then by all means, the trial was a farce.. otherwise STFU and don't whine... 

the law is the law unless you do something to change it.. and if you don't even try to.. then you are not entitled to cry like a little girl that it doesn't work

cam.holtoe
cam.holtoe

@Birddog6424 No disputing Zimmerman's EPIC level of idiocy.. but if it was legal to attack idiots without repercussion..  we'd have time for nothing else.. 

kirkslade1
kirkslade1 topcommenter

@frankd4 You be prejudice. You be a hater. You ignorant. (Normally, some silly religious post would also follow). 

In all reality, you are hoping to use accountability as a tool. You are also using past history as an indicator of future performance. Sounds good to me. I agree with everything that you are saying. I can't wait until tomorrow. I look forward to every Tuesday morning when this ex rap artist (oxymoron) is going to try to prove to the world that Lebron, the moon, my dogs, the forest, and Eddie Murphy are all prejudice and that they are keeping the ghetto down. I can't wait for tomorrow's topic. 

cam.holtoe
cam.holtoe

@frankd4 One problem.. Running would not have been "keepin' it REAL."  And you know you GOTS to keep it real, yo

shelley514
shelley514

You have to be summoned first to show up for jury duty. You can't just magically appear at the courthouse and get picked for a jury. There is no factual basis for your claim that blacks are summoned for jury duty but never show up. You sound like you're talking off the top of your head and making things up. The truth of the matter is there are no blacks on that jury and that the defense exercised peremptory strikes to disproportionately toss blacks of the jury panel. And the judge allowed defense to do so over the prosecution's objection resulting in a jury with no blacks able to decide Zimmerman's fate. Those are ACTUAL FACTS; not sure you have any interest in them. You just spout off drivel about how many kids Luke has as if that has any relevance to the Zimmerman jury's composition. I'm using big words, logic, common sense here. Use ur brain and try to learn something.

HarryTheHandyman
HarryTheHandyman

@kirkslade1 Bravo.  You made Luke your bitch.  I guess he doesn't know how this whole jury selection thing works.  Or much of anything for that matter.

tgatekeeper01
tgatekeeper01

I heard there are two black women on the jury.

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

@kirkslade1 @frankd4 


look at what we as a society are DAILY exposed to:

1)we are at war now as a nation for over a decade with thousands of Americans killed and hundreds of thousands of IRAQi and Afghan civilian non-combatants killed

2)we want to ARM and train kindergarten teachers with M16s as if they were Secret Service agents (some also say the little kids themselves should carry concealed weapons in their diapers)

3)there is not a newspaper in america that doesn't contain a story of murder or violent or kidnapping and torture (and that's american on american)

4)for ENTERTAINMENT our top twenty video games have someone shooting, blowing something up or otherwise violently pursuing some bogieman for points

5)we have drivers with road rage shooting at each other for minor traffic infractions and violations typically because someone was on a cellphone

6)we got our young kids NFL heros, 29 since the super bowl, guys who have it all, going to jail for murder, rape, spousal abuse and unlicensed guns


who would have though NORTHERN IRELAND would someday be safer than Milwaukee ?  is it mathematically statistically normal that of ANY TWO random people to have a conflict that ONE OF THEM has a GUN ?

well mix that with STUPIDITY and there is your answer - that isn't racist, prejudice, hating - no it's STUPIDITY - period

a young kid who wasn't smart enough to keep running away when he could have met up with a fatso wannabe cop who got in over his head and made a split second decision to become a condo commando hero - stupid ! see ?


frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

@cam.holtoe @frankd4 

i would have kept it real for GEN george CUSTER two hundred years ago same as for trayvon seventeen months ago

LIVE to FIGHT another DAY

kirkslade1
kirkslade1 topcommenter

@shelley514 Wow! You can't just show up? Thanks for clarifying. Maybe you can help me with my taxes and simple math problems! Of course you have to be summoned! You may not agree with me, but at least understand that I understand the law and the process of jury duty.My comment was based on the factual observation that based on the two times that I went, the black turnout was far below what was expected. With regards to Luke, he makes weekly comments about issues that only help to cause and enhance racism. He is a terrible role model, and should be called out at every opportunity. He is useless, and if not for the comedy of his stupidity, he serves no purpose.  

HarryTheHandyman
HarryTheHandyman

@shelley514 So no black people were summoned for the jury?  On the subject of big words, I presume you meant "your" when you typed out "ur"

Oh one more thin, you mentioned facts right?  Where'd you get the following 'fact'?: "The truth of the matter is there are no blacks on that jury and that the defense exercised peremptory strikes to disproportionately toss blacks of the jury panel."

kirkslade1
kirkslade1 topcommenter

@really @kirkslade1 Go to jury. You tell me. It's the big get over. I have a better idea. Bury your head in the sand, claim racism, and say it never happened.


frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

@kirkslade1 @frankd4

what i have found as the major difference between WHITE and BLACK is LEGACY

i can HAND DOWN to my kids a start in a down-payment to purchase a short sale and instruct them how to handle a gun and introduce them to business opportunities, small as they are, so that they are SELF-SUFFICENT and NOT dependant on the market to use and abuse their skill set and squeeze them into a minimum wage J O B

THE major result from this is to learn to BUILD ON THE BASE and continue the pass-through and be PROUD of adding to a LEGACY of family history

BLACKs have to start from square one in each and every generation so their mistakes and burdens are the same today as they were a hundred years ago - they got NO WHERE financially during that whole time

i see the MEXICANs sending thousand of dollars back home and i see ASIANs working at their little restaurants ALL accumulating a LEGACY to pay forward to their future generations - so the foundation bricks are secured in place for the NEXT kids to build upon the base

i myself have lived off of a small income generated from a grandfathers investment - not much BUT something i myself can pass on - BLACKs cannot pass anything on = period

kirkslade1
kirkslade1 topcommenter

@frankd4 @kirkslade1 You and I think the same way. We are not expanding the middle class. We are dummying-down the educated class and excepting the stupidity of the bottom feeders. We award 9th place. We have done away with intelligence and winning. The best microcosm in the United States is the NFL. 

Take a look: When we were a strong country, we wanted to win. Win by 50! Hurt the other team. Competition!  It pained us when we lost. The NFL was the same way. Now, we have leveled the playing field to the point where we are all numb. We want everyone to have a chance. That's fine, but let's be realistic. Most teenagers that are under 5 feet tall, aren't going to play in the NBA. We all now have to get along. We are not friends, we are numb. Same thing in the NFL. Everyone kind of gets along, but they are not friends. 

Because we have lowered our standards so much, we don't make products anymore. We are in business to see who can get sued the least! We are a country that is caught in legal issues.

Mix this all together with how stupid we have become and how unsophisticated we are and you have a very volatile mixture.


Amanda670
Amanda670

@kirkslade1 @shelley514 Shelly obviously you do not understand the system. First and foremost to be picked for jury duty you have to be a registered voter. http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/05/04/3937299/fewer-blacks-hispanics-registered.html There are many more articles and campaigns out there to encourage blacks to vote then there are whites.  Additionally, those that are summoned for jury duty just do not show up for the most part http://www.freep.com/article/C4/20120603/OPINION01/206030445/Editorial-Why-so-few-black-jurors- SO Shelly when was the last time you were registered to vote summoned for jury duty or showed up for that summons?

kirkslade1
kirkslade1 topcommenter

@shelley514 The US Census Dept is claiming closer to 21%. Go ahead. Tell me that the they are racist or not trustworthy.

kirkslade1
kirkslade1 topcommenter

Would you feel, in your vast understanding of life, that African Americans account for greater than 10% of the population of Miami Dade?

shelley514
shelley514

"The black turnout was far below what was expected" - by who, exactly? You? You're tr authority on the exact number of blacks who've been summoned for jury duty on any given day? Is that right? SMH. A discussion with you is useless. You make baseless claims. I can't .......

shelley514
shelley514

Do you not understand what an "objection" is?

shelley514
shelley514

"One more thin" - I suppose you meant "thing". Did you just completely skip news coverage of prosecution objections to defense use of peremptory strikes? You just conveniently ignored all that huh?

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