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Eric Holder Slams Stand Your Ground Law, Al Sharpton Pledges Florida Fight

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If the Stevie Wonder boycott and the thousands signing MoveOn petitions didn't convince lawmakers they were going to face serious pressure to repeal the Stand Your Ground law after George Zimmerman's acquittal, last night's NAACP convention finale should do the trick.

First U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder sharply criticized the law. Then Al Sharpton called Stand Your Ground the "worst violation of civil rights" in the country and pledged to start a fight to remove it -- beginning next week with a conference in Miami.

Sharpton's comments were bolstered by Holder, who also slammed the laws, which are on the books in 30 states. Holder said Stand Your Ground laws "senselessly expand the concept of self defense," the Washington Post reports, and can cause "violent situations to escalate."

Both Sharpton and Holder are just the biggest names to latch onto a nationwide move to force Florida to change its law, which Zimmerman didn't directly invoke but which was mentioned to jurors in their instructions before they found him not guilty of killing Miami teen Trayvon Martin.

Wonder was the first of a small but growing list of entertainers who've pledged to cancel shows in Florida unless the law changes and MoveOn has started a petition to boycott Florida tourism until Stand Your Ground dies.

Sharpton acknowledged that Florida is just the tip of the iceberg with such laws, but said the Sunshine State should become a "test case" for killing Stand Your Ground nationwide.

He also promised to start planning in earnest next Tuesday in Miami, where his National Action Network has a three-day conference planned.

So what's the chance Stand Your Ground actually falters under all the pressure?

Given our state's heavily gerrymandered, GOP-dominated legislature, don't bank on it. The Orlando Sentinel reached Sen. David Simmons, who helped draft the law; Simmons says there's "between a zero and one percent chance" the law could change.

Adds Kareem K. Jordan, a criminal justice professor at University of Central Florida in an interview with the Sentinel: "The only chance of repeal would be to elect brand-new people to office. But with the culture of this state, I highly doubt that will be the case."

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WhyNotNow
WhyNotNow topcommenter

White people should all just go kill themselves.

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

how safe should little children be in kindergarten class in connecticut ?

the DEBATE is certainly about RACE,  no doubt in my mind,  but BLACKs don't have the monopoly on being killed by crazy individuals with GUNS

where was the BLACK outrage when dozens of little WHITE kids in connecticut were slaughtered ?

i personally don't think we are being INSENSITIVE to each other as much as that these tragic events in the aggregate are just too much overload to properly process - i mean every day brings more and more

drakemallard
drakemallard topcommenter

How many white parents would be outranged if a grown black man and self appointed neighborhood watch man had profiled their child and began following their child who was doing nothing more than returning home from the store after buying candy for a younger sibling. Whose child wouldn't be frightened by a stranger, a grown man stalking them tries to stop them and question them for no reason, doesn't identify himself, what frightened teen would try to lash out try to protect himself from an aggressive stranger .

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

THE REALLY unfortunate thing is a majority of BLACKs and WHITEs see these tragic results and wish it were otherwise and move on

what will happen is the extremists will take over the soap-box and the WHITEs will say to the BLACKs get out of here, and the BLACKs will "demand" their rights and entitlements, and the most vocal from both sides will go on and on about it all yet resolve nothing

without EDCATION being a priority leading to better opportunity towards an econcomically sustainable self-sufficiency and growth POVERTY will prevail and continually erode and UNdo ANY possibly positive change and essential progress

ON BOTH SIDES the stupid and delusional will sink lower and the poor will get poorer and the days will get hotter and people will find themselves less and less employable and the band will play on as the sharptons and jackson give speeches and the N R A gets its way in the legislature

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

OBAMAcare would be repealed before STAND YOUR GROUND

mnaglez
mnaglez

Zimmerman case was never about Stand Your Ground.  SYG was never mentioned by the defense, or the prosecution.

The reason blacks hate Stand Your Ground is because they don't want whites to be able to defend themselves against black criminals.  (Or is "black criminal" a redundancy?)

kirkslade1
kirkslade1 topcommenter

Has Sharpton ever won anything? 

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

well LIMBAUGH wan't to repeal OBAMAcare and SHARPTON wants to abolish STAND YOUR GROUND

well working together they have a better chance of UNIONIZING wal-mart

Mercy Suarez
Mercy Suarez

Nothing but hate monger...by the way, where does he get all this money to drive around and do nothing but stir up trouble? And just where is he where black on black crimes are committed? His own people killing each other and not a peep from him or Jesse. Those two are no better than the sugary televangelists on TV crying and carrying on...Americans deserve better than that...

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

this shows how DUMB rev sharpton really is 

any "test case" against STAND YOUR GROUND law is simply not going to go anywhere

FLORIDA legislators enact these laws based on lobbyist who are financed by the N R A

REV SHARPTON would find it easier to UNIONIZE wal-mart than take N R A GUN laws off the books here in florida

YoYo
YoYo

Sharpton, and Jackson, still trying to find a way to be relevant....

Please set an example, and  fix NY and Chicago violent crime.  then you will have a platform to stand on.

 

guitarsjm
guitarsjm

How i would love to see him and his partners go work on chicago and do some good for a change with your marches and protests and signs!! show the world  and the people of this country that you ARE for all people and actually do care about the race you profess to care so much about!!! work on the insane CRIME AND KILLING going on in chicago mainly, but all inner cities where the majority of violent crimes and killings are committed by young blacks.  why dont you help them! why dont you work on changing the perception that people have; that of the THUG culture that is glamorized and celebrated in most rap/hip hop!  the lyrics (if you call them that) are nothing short of hateful, disgusting and do nothing but create more hate thats misdirected! you can put an 'A' at the end of any darn word you choose... the WORD IS STILL THE SAME! like putting an 'A' at the end of CRACKER really changes it??? or for that matter to that word you all claim to HATE so much but use it yourself as if its a work of endearment!! that ever feared 'N' word!!!! give us a break with your nonsense and do some good!!! march against hate songs that glorify gangster (or...hmm... gangsta....makes it no different) ways, violence against woman and others, drugs and booze and the rest of that horrible lifestyle that has been allowed to be glorified just because its 'inner city acting out' types in their music irregardless of the damage much of it is actually causing!  here is a clue. if you walk through a neighborhood that has been ravished with crimes, and you walk in it in the dark, covered up, dressed like those who have committed crimes in that neighborhood, what do you think people are going to think or a watch person would think??? here's an analogy, walk into a bank or store that has had its share of theft or robbery attempt, wearing the garb that those who had committed those crimes had wore, do you think you will not be confronted in some manner or watched CLOSELY??? do some good Al! Talk to the youth and young adults who look to your and others for guidance and REALLY GUIDE THEM in a manner that creates a better atmosphere for everyone and not just a select group! We are ALL people and CAN live together and get along!!! You are NOT helping that to happen!!! Stop your hate mongering and race baiting!! You have so much power, or the perception of it, that you can REALLY do some good if that was your REAL INTENT! i grew up poor, with all colors and was friends with all!! We didnt need people like you making us hate one another or trying to make us think someone is better than someone else due to their race.  We were ALL equal and that is how MY parents and our teachers taught us!! And we carried that on through our adult lives and with our children.  YOU should be at the forefront of championing POSITIVE ways and methods for so many instead of the picking of old scabs you continue to go after as if that will accomplish anything for the good of those you claim to march for.  WAKE up Al... stop destroying!

guitarsjm
guitarsjm

go work on chicago and do some good for a change with your marches and protests and signs!! show the world  and the people of this country that you ARE for all people and actually do care about the race you profess to care so much about!!! work on the insane CRIME AND KILLING going on in chicago mainly, but all inner cities where the majority of violent crimes and killings are committed by young blacks.  why dont you help them! why dont you work on changing the perception that people have; that of the THUG culture that is glamorized and celebrated in most rap/hip hop!  the lyrics (if you call them that) are nothing short of hateful, disgusting and do nothing but create more hate thats misdirected! you can put an 'A' at the end of any darn word you choose... the WORD IS STILL THE SAME! like putting an 'A' at the end of CRACKER really changes it??? or for that matter to that word you all claim to HATE so much but use it yourself as if its a work of endearment!! that ever feared 'N' word!!!! give us a break with your nonsense and do some good!!! march against hate songs that glorify gangster (or...hmm... gangsta....makes it no different) ways, violence against woman and others, drugs and booze and the rest of that horrible lifestyle that has been allowed to be glorified just because its 'inner city acting out' types in their music irregardless of the damage much of it is actually causing!  here is a clue. if you walk through a neighborhood that has been ravished with crimes, and you walk in it in the dark, covered up, dressed like those who have committed crimes in that neighborhood, what do you think people are going to think or a watch person would think??? here's an analogy, walk into a bank or store that has had its share of theft or robbery attempt, wearing the garb that those who had committed those crimes had wore, do you think you will not be confronted in some manner or watched CLOSELY??? do some good Al! Talk to the youth and young adults who look to your and others for guidance and REALLY GUIDE THEM in a manner that creates a better atmosphere for everyone and not just a select group! We are ALL people and CAN live together and get along!!! You are NOT helping that to happen!!! Stop your hate mongering and race baiting!!

Luis Benitez
Luis Benitez

Well he can eat a floppy donkey dick. These are my rights and they aren't going anywhere.

RichRedneck
RichRedneck

This fucking guy thrives on racism, his only goal in life is to make sure racism is alive and well so he manipulate the uneducated masses to his every whim. You want to end racism start using common sense and stop listening to this idiot. 

Teron Armstrong
Teron Armstrong

Sharpton is the poison that infects fresh water. Everything he touches turns to crap. We live and work here in Florida. WE will vote laws up or down and manage our business. The justice system still works. No need to tinker with hands that are tainted.

Luis Pagan
Luis Pagan

if anyone encounters Al Sharpton on the street, just scream at him "TAWANA BRAWLEY"

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

the N R A owns the US senate and half of the house and the FLORIDA legislature give it everything it wants so the ODDs of anything changing are close to zero = checkmate

erngomez
erngomez

Fuck them both. As for any celeb who is boycotting FL fuck them too. they can stay out!

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

well someone is GOING to LEARN something, either the NRA or rev sharpton, i just don't know who will be teaching and who will be taught

if dozens of little WHITE kindergarteners being slaughtered in connecticut could move the ball on this issue i don't know what a BLACK person in a cracker state of rich rednecks is going to accomplish

Johnny Mesa
Johnny Mesa

It's sad to see these people use the tragedy of what happened as leverage for their agendas.

Lauren Castillo
Lauren Castillo

How about letting florida residents handle their own state?

Alexander Fernandez
Alexander Fernandez

They don't want to focus on Chicago aka ChIraq. They want to focus on a law that didn't even come to play in this case.

Asüka Bazüka
Asüka Bazüka

I highly believe that he has guns in his home. Seriously. Shut it.

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

actually the MAJORITY of HIRED security details that I know of here in FLORIDA condominiums ARE BLACK people who are employed by the condo and charged with the responsibility of maintaining the property including the common areas such as the sidewalks, greens, pool, etc

remember these "communities" are really PRIVATE PROPERTY shared by unit OWNERS who can set rules seperate and apart from PUBLIC access as they wish hence the term "condo-commando" and CAN DEMAND a person identify themselves at ANY point on the property = period

the more upper class condos will in fact give guests and visitors a daily badge that has to be worn and visable at all times and some uber-upper condos will demand the visitor and guest always be accompanied by a unit owner - these places are not open to the public

go run around up in PALM BEACH and see what happens

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

.......................................the reality is even if all BLACKs wanted to leave cracker central here in florida they cannot afford to do so

just like i am sad to think when CASTRO dies all the rednecks might then chant "CASTROs dead so NOW GO HOME" inciting long established hispanic ties to south florida to be pulled up by the roots and evict our long suffering guests to go back and return to CUBA where they came from

if BLACKs future announced boycott of  URBAN WEEK in SOBE  to the delight of local residents is any indication then there are many who would delight in ALL BLACKs boycotting the WHOLE state in the future

i think it would be a dream for many to think ALL hispanics and blacks vacate the state

i think it is also sad that so many really would look forward to this as an accomplishment

i think the SEMINOLEs watching will get ideas that maybe PALE FACE should go too

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

perfect

i always suspected the state would use someone to "throw" this case

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

@kirkslade1 

well he has a constituency for many years now who should ask THEMSELVES the same question

rev sharpton would have never made more than a year or two as an ancient roman emperor 

rev sharpton hasn't delivered anything of consequence to his people for OVER thirty years now ................ just ask TAWANA BRAWLEY what sharpton did for her future

the problem is if you are BLACK and see this and call a big-headed buffoon like sharpton to account then you're call an O R E O by all other BLACKs

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

@Mercy Suarez 

not really MERCY although that's what it might look like on the surface it's really ALL ABOUT M O N E Y like you mention

the thing about H A T E is that it only began once value was placed on things and not everyone had the same accumulated value of themselves and their stuff so H A T E results from the difference

rev sharpton sells books, t-shirts, radio advertising, gives paid speeches and on and on meanwhile personally he lives off of a church where parishioners donate to support his expenses and receives sponsorship freebies for wearing a certain brand name shirt or shoes in public

no one gets anything for free from rev sharpton

mnaglez
mnaglez

@frankd4 NRA doesn't vote, people do.  The people voted for Stand Your Ground, so it ain't going away.  Hope y'all ain't mad.

guitarsjm
guitarsjm

@frankd4  

no rich redneck cracker! you are as ignorant as those who claim to be against it. your words say it all.  people like you must really hate yourselves and have some sick need to blame the ills of one an others!! the only ones who, if and when they dont get what they want, destroy their own neighborhoods, loot and pillage local businesses no matter what the race of the owners; just to steal and loot! and this is done to honor someones memory who threw the first punch? you need a life too!

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

it goes back to PAPA BUSH hiring lee atwater who used WILLIE HORTON to beat dukakis in the presidential election

learning from insurance carriers to scare people into action is the most effective message

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

yeah WE can count votes by ourselves......unless there is an election then we better hire HAITI to do it

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

@mnaglez @frankd4 

i think the bigger question is the culture of FLORIDA ............... and that means these results from these kinds of law(s) is what people of FLORIDA with money and power and influence want enacted - the typical FLORIDIAN is either too old to hear what anyone is saying to too young to care about anyone else except themself

we are dredging ports and extending airport runways here in ft liquordale ALL for the cruise ship industry and that's how big money works (okay yes it does create J O B S for local citizens for a time)............. MY MAIN POINT IS the average county citizen could care LESS about the cruise ship industry !

it's the SAME THING with GUNs and the related law(s) - so you have those that want them and want to use them and those that don't care

if the media didn't have this particular case 24/7 in our face we would certainly not have cared just like no one cares about the other dozen or so black kids killed DAILY all over america, in chicago and NY and east LA,  for no good reason 

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

@mnaglez @frankd4 

actually people did NOT vote for STAND YOUR GROUND

the ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES a/k/a FLORIDA LEGISLATORS enacted law(s) to allow for certain situations whereby an armed person can kill someone else without legal conseqeuence = period

the N R A funded ALL the proper required details and text of the proposed law(s) and then funded the candidates themselves who won elections and in turn enacted the law(s) 

being either mad at the law(s),  or their apparent results,  or at the florida legislators,  or the N R A,  depends on where someone stands on these issues, and this matter

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

@guitarsjm @frankd4 


i can only mention the ones like i know and if you go to REDNECK YACHT CLUB which is basically a mud-hole of redneck fun you will see vehicles and equipment and yes GUNs that are NOT cheap

my point of course is the N R A is well funded and for the most part it's membership is rich crackers who hoot and holla and carry on like crazy crackers trayvon mentioned to ms rachel jeantel

and many rednecks here in DAVIE FL where i live have HORSEs and FARMs and RANCHes with are very very expensive to maintain for personal pleasure but they own these things out-right  we even have a privately funded public RODEO arena here that keeps getting bigger every year 


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