Here's a Video of the Marine Life in the Boat Slip Where Beckham Wants a Stadium

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A lobster and some coral living in the FEC boat slip, where Beckham's stadium could one day be built.
Yesterday we reported that building David Beckham's downtown soccer stadium would have a hidden cost: the marine life living in the FEC boat slip.

Although on its surface foul, the boat slip is actually home to some incredible animals, according to Coral Morphologic cofounder Colin Foord. "We've got lobsters, green moray eels, and phosphorescent brain coral down there, right along Biscayne Boulevard," he says.

Beckham's representatives have dismissed Foord's claims, but the marine biologist has underwater footage to prove the boat slip is its own unique habitat. Click through to see the incredible video.

See also: David Beckham's Stadium Spot Already Home to Artificial Coral Reef, Says Marine Biologist

Foord is careful to point out he's not against the stadium, even if it means filling in the boat slip. But he would like Beckham to promise to build another artificial reef nearby.

Here is Foord's short video of his Memorial Day dive at the FEC boat slip. It starts slowly, but the last 30 seconds are pretty incredible.

As you can see, the water isn't the cleanest -- several city sewers empty into the slip, after all -- but it's nonetheless home to tropical fish, spiny lobsters, and phosphorescent "urban corals."

"People should know what's down there," Foord says. "They need to be informed when deciding when to fill it or not. If the voters decide to fill it, it's a very reasonable caveat to say to the developers: 'Look, taxpayers paid all this money for this. There has to be mitigation.'"

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mandarafineart
mandarafineart

@ Ed Serrano...Ed you're a shill --- shamelessly promoting Beckham's Group.  Your biased comments appear in every forum.  There are numerous alternate options that are much more realistic, ones that would consider parking, traffic, noise, environmental impacts, plus all the numerous non-soccer events that are sure to take place.  However that means the developers would actually have to spend their own money and pay for their land.  Imagine having to BUY land as a private business instead of stealing a public park that's been developed for nearly 30-years!  We'd all love to have our businesses subsidized prior to proving the viability and profitability of our business model.  What if soccer is a bust in Miami??  Its not exactly a front-page sport anywhere in the US.  In reality, there are many, many soccer fans in Miami, but that fervor is limited to nationalistic pride, ie, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, or whichever home country your cheering for.  Since this is not a world cup proposal, I have serious doubts that Miami will support an NASL team.  Lease space from Sunlife for 3-years, then if that works, find a space about 6 blocks west of the Arscht Center and build there --- there's ample space there and that area needs re-developement too.  Just because its "Beckham" doesn't make it right! 

Massiel Cuellar
Massiel Cuellar

i vote no. we dont need a stupid soccer stadium. if he really wants one in miami there are other places more suitable for that.

Erin Erin
Erin Erin

Thank you for posting!!!! My vote is a big giant NO for this location!

Anthonyvop1
Anthonyvop1 topcommenter

BTW  That "Eco-System" man made.  That slip was built by man.



Anthonyvop1
Anthonyvop1 topcommenter

There is life almost everywhere in Biscayne bay.  Under MacArthur causeway.  Indian Creek, Bayside Marina.  Even the "Polluted" Miami river is home to snook, Jacks, Tarpon and Manatees.
Sponges, Soft corals will set up shop on almost anything.  Drop in a six-pack of PBR and in a year you have an artificial reef.

That being said I am 100% against my tax dollars being used for a stadium.

Sam Wright
Sam Wright

Typical Miami response Gudni Valsson. Yeah, I guess there is nothing historical about a school used to train our troops for anti- submarine warfare during World War II. It's not like it was needed right? Did you know that German submarines off the coast of Florida sunk over 400 American ships, mostly merchant ships? Yup, nothing historic there.

Pedro M Ross
Pedro M Ross

Built somewhere where there is public infrastructure to support it. We keep cramming 1000s of more residents in the downtown Miami, and Brickel, and millions, and billions of dollars of new developments. But they don't improve, or expand the roadways and other traffic related infrastructure for all this new crap.

James Kelley
James Kelley

How about a close up of all the beer cans and other trash that resides there. jim

Exiliado
Exiliado topcommenter

Pathetic.

Life is not exactly thriving in that place. If any of you thinks otherwise is because you have never looked underwater, or you are just a moron. And that includes the self appointed "marine expert" who can't hold his breath for more than 30 seconds.

There's more life inside my sewer pipes.


Pathetic indeed.

blancamesa
blancamesa

Why are sewer lines allowed to dump into The FEC slip? This inlet is part of the state-designated Biscayne Bay Aquatic Preserve.

mcrenshaw82
mcrenshaw82

Wow reading this makes me realize how out of touch most of you are.  New Times Props on this article. An informed decision is exactly what needs to happen.. Of course there is marine life in the bay.  Just because the tide and wind pushes all the garbage that we throw in the bay ends up in the boat slip doesn't make it some polluted sees pool of disease..  Have any of you actually been down to the park and walked it to see the space. No you haven't because if you did you would know this park isn't even open yet and we want to build over it. I live across the street and went to the amazing Perez museum on memorial day and walked the whole water front.  It looks so much smaller form my balcony but its a very large area to fill.. I think it would be cool but i honestly think its a mistake to build over something when there is plenty of viable space in Miami with no damage to our eco system and cost to tax payers to fill in that area.  Don't even send some overzealous comment about private funding.  Have we not seen how that works in the past.. MARLINS.. Arison wants 125 million. Lets be realistic.. Traffic is already a nightmare and you are going to add this.. Mr.  Hirschenbein yes there was a plan to put it on the port it was denied.. This new plan is in downtown.. Your comparison of the marine life to an ant hill is quite off putting.  I am not even going to get into the difference of building a high rise and filling in natural habitat to build a soccer stadium. You just make yourself sound uneducated not to mention stupid  when saying things like that.    Construction will be an added continual problem.. I realize the allure of that spot but seriously it doesn't make sense given there are other more cost effective and less destructive options.

Adrian Diaz
Adrian Diaz

You can please everybody all time. Build it in a place where it would have a healthy impact on the neighbourhood and be an asset instead of a liability.

Matt Hirschenbein
Matt Hirschenbein

This latest proposed site and plan by Beckham's group is excellent and answers any real concerns....this is a huge score (pun intended) for the city of Miami and it's residents. By the way, I don't see the New Times writing articles about an ant hill or a lizard on a property everytime they are about to break ground to build a new condo tower.

Daniela Bianchi
Daniela Bianchi

built an artificial reef? what about finding another spot and leaving that as it is...

Matt Hirschenbein
Matt Hirschenbein

Josh I don't think there was ever an original plan other than the building the stadium at the port.

Lee Ifans
Lee Ifans

This is just another red herring, if you forgive the pun, just like anyone with traffic concerns or querying if anyone will show up to watch. People are clutching at straws. There are NO drawbacks to this, we get a fantastic stadium, a redeveloped park, a continuous waterfront downtown, an association with one of the most iconic sports people in World history and it will be privately funded?! Only Miamians could complain about that. And I thought it was us Brits that had the reputation for whinging :D

Josh Colletta
Josh Colletta

Build it next to Marlins Park or don't build it at all. Not at the port, not at the slip. Next to Marlins Park. That was the original plan, and it must be followed.

Brian Bartlett
Brian Bartlett

Why don't they put t he stadium where it wont mess up any marine life. I am a fan of football/soccer, it will be cool to go to a match

Eugenio A. Alonso
Eugenio A. Alonso

One lobster? LMAO. This is a new low. How much is Miami Dade County paying you people?

Claudia Miquelino
Claudia Miquelino

The city of Miami is perfect and does not need this football stadium ..Sorry David Beckham.. :))

Ed Serrano
Ed Serrano

Walk by the slip and all you see is trash in there. Not to mention it's empty almost all year. Beckham will pay for the park and give us a public space we can all enjoy.

greenthumb
greenthumb

I think they should build the stadium in an area where most of the fans live. Either south Miami or little havana. Why build a stadium in an area where it's already congested and not easily accessible to that sports specific fanbase? Yes, I know most use the metro, but still... If all these soccer fans from other countries want this stadium so bad, put it in your own backyard. David Beckham should really consider some of that prime Kendall real estate.

greenthumb
greenthumb

I think they should build the stadium in an area where most of the fans live. Either south Miami or little havana. Why build a stadium in an area where it's already congested and not easily accessible to that sports specific fanbase? Yes, I know most use the metro, but still... If all these soccer fans from other countries want this stadium so bad, put it in your own backyard. David Beckham should really consider some of that prime Kendall real estate.

Jose Antonio Navarro
Jose Antonio Navarro

I was expecting to see a couple of dead bodies wrapped in ball and chain

Robert Rick
Robert Rick

He should build with glass bottom floor to see the sea life when stadium is done.

demoroman88
demoroman88 topcommenter

Do people in miami even watch/care about  soccer?

Gudni Valsson
Gudni Valsson

Training center? Just because somebody farted somewhere doesn't make it historic

intermiamifc
intermiamifc

@mandarafineart


Yes, why try to do something right, and with the best possibilities of success and benefit to the communities, downtown and beyond, rather than half-ass it and do something with a marginal return on people trying to make a sizable investment in the city, the region, and the future....?? I will never understand that mindset.


Miami and South Florida have an opportunity to make a statement, while putting a "Miami at Its Best" stamp on it (not to mention the world's most well known and identifiable image on it, in David Beckham), that will be seen and draw people from around the world. And, it adds to the public green space, as well as completing and adding to the synergy of and money spent in the Sports, Museums, Arts, Restaurants, and Tourism (S.M.A.R.T.) District of Downtown Miami Bay (easily accessible by public transit). It's a WINNER, so let's not act like losers and have a defeatist mentality that prevents great accomplishments. It's not the American way, it should not be the Miami way either. 


WE CAN DO THIS! THE BEST DAYS OF MIAMI AND WHAT IT HAS TO OFFER ARE AHEAD OF US!!


PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION, CONTACT YOUR CITY OF MIAMI REPRESENTATIVES, & VOTE "YES" FOR THE MUSEUM PARK AND STADIUM ON DOWNTOWN MIAMI BAY!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1A-SKax8QCPmYjeHnk24oYLxvuf4rvxynWy-GHGOq8tg/viewform


(And if you don't think Major League Soccer, and soccer in general, is soon becoming only 2nd in popularity in the United States to American football, while currently 1st in participation for some time, you are not paying attention or you are just plain ignoring the facts. And Miami and South Florida are the hottest of the hotbeds for growth, participation, and viewing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer_in_the_United_Stateshttp://www.usyouthsoccer.org/media_kit/keystatistics/)


Finally, calling someone a "shill" or other names, especially without anything to back up the claim, makes you look incredibly immature and uninformed. Stick to the facts, please. 

L.Miami
L.Miami

There is soooo much more to this than the marine life, which is a HUGE concern.... but what about the tax payer money that went towards the museum park and museums. Where will people park for the games.....the lots are going to be turned into high rises and shopping centers..... where will we take our dogs out??! if you dont live downtown you dont understand what a HUGE issue this is for us

L.Miami
L.Miami

you sir, are a complete moron. The way you think is whats wrong with the world. Your lack of concern for the environment, tax payer money, local residents, etc. is sad and disturbing.... EVERY ACTION HAS A REACTION.... and this will not be pretty reaction. @Lee Ifans 

Dave
Dave

No drawbacks? How about the huge risk of building a stadium, on the water, on top of a park (that if you go by today has been opened partially for public view) that taxpayers have had to pay millions for, when it's not a guarantee that it will succeed? In this location, Beckham will have to count on games selling out all year long to justify him staying. I love soccer but I don't see that happening in Miami. AT best you will have 50% attendance year round and do you think that is what Beckham wants? What do you do with a 20,000 seat stadium if he decided to leave which he could do? You want your taxes to pay a demolition of it and millions more to fill as park? Again, I like soccer and I will be watching the World Cup but you cannot compare interest in World Cup with an MLS team and mostly local players. The talent is not the same. The game is not the same. This is not guaranteed to succeed and then you are left with a cement structure abandoned.

rayt1980
rayt1980

Did you even watch the video? Smh...

Dave
Dave

Yeah it's empty because it's closed for renovations! How do you want people to access if it's closed? I would suggest you go by today and take a look, They have taken down a few of the gates and fences and you can see the park almost finished and it looks beautiful already. If you are a miami resident, you are okay with the millions you got taken in taxes to build this park, which is almost complete, and have a stadium built on top of it? You are okay with the additional millions in taxes you paid to build that slip to have it filled up? Beckham already said he doesn't plan on repaying the city for those millions spent on park and slip.

intermiamifc
intermiamifc

@demoroman88 Oh yes! South Florida has some of the highest rates of watching and participation in the United States, especially with the number of South and Central Americans. Check in with www.southernlegion.com and https://www.facebook.com/goalmiami to find out more information on why Miami should have and deserves Major League Soccer!


Lest we think it cannot or should not be done here, perhaps some inspiration from around the world...


Inspirational! 

Does Miami have the creativity, the vision, and the good old fashioned American ingenuity to do it better?? 

Of course. Miami, let's be S.M.A.R.T. and complete the Sports, Museums, Arts, Restaurants, and Tourism District of Downtown Miami Bay with a crowning jewel of the David Beckham-proposed Museum Park & Stadium for our Major League Soccer (MLS) team and for all of the people of the City of Miami and beyond!!!

Here are some waterside city stadiums from around the world (Most, if not all, enhance and improve the surrounding areas and landscapes, creating green space and publicly usable areas, as well as local sources of great pride):

1) Vicente Calderon Stadium (Spain):http://www.abc.es/Media/201203/26/vicente-calderon-estadio--644x362.JPG

2) Petrovsky Stadium (Russia):http://fstadium.com/images/europe/russia/Petrovsky/04.jpg

3) Estadio Gigante de Arroyito (Argentina):http://futbolmania12.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/gigante-de-arroyito.jpg

4) Craven Cottage (England):http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5024/5725670750_90bc6b6d24_b.jpg

5) Aker Stadion (Norway): http://www.info-stades.fr/forum/ressources/image/51345

6) Stadio Giuseppe Sinigaglia (Italy): http://www.stades-spectateurs.com/images/italie/como/stadio-giuseppe-sinigaglia-como-1.jpg

7) Stade Marcel-Saupin (France):http://www.lenouveaumalakoff.com/files/grdes-projet/stademarcelsaupin460.jpg

8) PPL Park (United States, Philadelphia):https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5108/5686226888_47f221f42c_z.jpg

And there are many more examples throughout the world. Why can't we do it?.... WE CAN DO IT. And we can do it better than anywhere else in the world.

SUPPORT GoalMiami (https://www.facebook.com/goalmiami), the Southern Legion MLS Supporters Group, and David Beckham (THE most popular and iconic soccer/futbol player of our generation), Marcelo Claure, and the other investors willing to invest in OUR DOWNTOWN, OUR TEAM, OUR COMMUNITY in this once in a generation opportunity to do this, and do this right!!

PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION, CONTACT YOUR CITY OF MIAMI REPRESENTATIVES, & VOTE "YES" FOR THE MUSEUM PARK AND STADIUM ON DOWNTOWN MIAMI BAY!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1A-SKax8QCPmYjeHnk24oYLxvuf4rvxynWy-GHGOq8tg/viewform

mandarafineart
mandarafineart

@intermiamifc @mandarafineart 

I love soccer, just not subsidizing some billionaire's latest pet project.  Buy the land and build it nearby, but only after proper traffic and environmental studies have been conducted.  I've actually done development with my own dollars and a project of this magnitude (filling in the bay) normally takes 2 to 4 years (approvals are needed from City, County, State & Federal agencies, plus environmental impact studies).  If soccer is indeed as viable as you say it is, then building a stadium in midtown or near the Marlin's stadium will work.  Cramming a stadium into a public, dedicated park space "just because Beckham wants it on the water" is preposterous at best.  Again if soccer is as viable as you say, then waterfront is not a necessity.  The real reason for this site is because the development group wants a taxpayer subsidy (by way of obtaining parcel of land that's probably worth $300Million Dollars).  Genting Group paid the Miami Herald $250M in a rock bottom market for their site.  So stop all the rah-rah emotional noise --- we all want a better Miami --- but please take into account that 1000's of residents live in condo towers and pay 100's of millions in property taxes each year.  And Florida East Coast RR is building a grand central station.  And there's a $4Billion dollar mall coming.  All of these must be factored in.  But somehow 20 soccer matches per year is the answer to all of downtown Miami's future???  Your fervor for a stadium is not lost on me, all I'm saying is keep things in perspective because once its built, everyone has to live with it.  Be careful what you wish for...

DavidDennis
DavidDennis

@Dave Could you tell me the address of the slip so I could go take a look?


I think Beckham's plan is impressive, but don't understand why we would want to build a stadium, which attracts people looking at games, on the waterfront.  Seems to me there has to be a higher and better use for a billion dollar waterfront lot than a sports stadium ...


The traffic on Biscayne Blvd and elsewhere right after a Heat game is a nightmare ... why would you want to build a stadium there?  Why not build it in a place designed for the massive volumes of traffic needed, and for the huge parking lots required?


David

HarryTheHandyman
HarryTheHandyman topcommenter

Aren't you guys the ones that copied and pasted the contents of a new times article about the stadium on your site? Or did MNT copy it from you?

intermiamifc
intermiamifc

@mandarafineart 

Downtown, on the water, provides the best opportunity for success. It will be an iconic and world-renowned stadium, representing and iconic and world-renowned city and its iconic and world-renowned ownership (making Miami their home). Not to mention the increased local and public green space and addition to the economic success (and taxes) provided by the S.M.A.R.T. District. 


If I am rah-rah, it is because this really is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for what will be an internationally-recognized success, if done and done right. I'd hate to see it torpedoed, again, by those who lack the vision and consideration of and for the future of Miami, South Florida, and its people.


2 years is plenty of time. Target date to start our Major League Soccer competition is 2017, but we need to start putting the wheels in motion now (as @mandarafineart points out)!


PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION, CONTACT YOUR CITY OF MIAMI REPRESENTATIVES, & VOTE "YES" FOR THE MUSEUM PARK AND STADIUM ON DOWNTOWN MIAMI BAY!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1A-SKax8QCPmYjeHnk24oYLxvuf4rvxynWy-GHGOq8tg/viewform

mandarafineart
mandarafineart

@intermiamifc @mandarafineart


Right, give me $300Million of free land and I'll build something iconic too!  Your logic is ridiculously flawed!  The point is that every other business (and this soccer thing is a business too) must take risks, from buying the land, to building the facility, to filling it, and then making a profit.  Stop using government and the peoples money (and park land) to subsidize it.  If you make the City of Miami  a joint owner in a joint venture and split profits honestly, then I'd at least be willing to run the numbers to see if it was worth the risk, but what you're asking for is a free hand-out (corporate welfare if you will) of $300Million Dollars.  Genting Group is planning construction of iconic hotels and condos next to the iconic looking Arscht Center --- with their own money.  20 soccer matches per year at 20,000 fans per game at an average of 40 dollars per ticket is $16M GOI.  NOI is probably $8M.  Undoubtedly this venue will need to rent space to concerts and other events.  What will the AAA and Arscht say about that??  Where's the parking lot for their project??  Again if waterfront is what's really driving soccer fan fervor then this plan is doomed before it even begins.  Will the fans even see the water?  NO!  Will the public have a view of the bay after the stadium is built?  NO! So only if you live in a high-rise in SOBE or downtown Miami, will you appreciate the fact this is on the water.  Build it in East Overtown and restore that iconic area to its former glory!  But we can't because getting $300M in free land is not part of this groups business plan.


intermiamifc
intermiamifc

@mandarafineart 

I confess to not knowing the intricacies of Beckham and his group's plans, but I will assume that their $250 million investment includes a good understanding of all of the things you mentioned, even your false claims of the public not being able to see or use the parkland. I am not sure where you came up with your numbers or statements, but a handout of $300 million is based on what when the tenant is saying they will pay fair market value (taxable)? You also seem torn between using the space for a stadium to make as much money as possible v. using it as a means to an end for public and green space. Which one is it you and some others want exactly? The city and county mayor, the investors, and many of the people of Miami, South Florida, and beyond want the best opportunity for both, and that is what the Museum Park & Stadium Plan proposes, an increase in public and green space, while providing an internationally-iconic, revenue and tax producing, park and stadium with the best possibilities of success for Miami's stadium, Miami's team, Miami's people.

intermiamifc
intermiamifc

@mandarafineart

Also, why can't the stadium be used for other city events, like city and state championships in soccer and football, as well as other opportunities for the local citizenry from all over (not just living in nearby condos) to participate in by the beautiful Bay (generating revenue and tax moneys)? 

Why can't the inside of the stadium be turned into a museum itself, open year-around, teaching its visitors from all over about the history and culture of soccer from around the world (generating revenue and tax moneys)? It is a very storied and rich history, that can teach everyone about the larger history of the world in the process. 

Why not add cafes/restaurants to the outside of the stadium, providing visitors to the park a nice, quiet afternoon in the park, sipping their beverage of choice enjoying the view of the water on the Bay side or the view of traffic on Biscayne Boulevard side (generating revenue and tax moneys)? 

Why can't their be a store or stores at the stadium, selling Inter Miami F.C., David Beckham, soccer from around the world, and other Miami paraphernalia year around (generating revenue and tax moneys)?


My point being, there can be, and even more, or less. There are many more benefits than non-benefits to the Museum Park & Stadium Plan. What you and some others want is not necessarily exclusive to what Beckham, soccer fans, and many others want. But we can't get caught up in "stinkin' thinkin'" that prevents the City of Miami, the people of Miami, and the future of Miami from realizing its best opportunities. This is one of those best opportunities, and it may not be available again, ever. Let's not blow it.


PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION, CONTACT YOUR CITY OF MIAMI REPRESENTATIVES, & VOTE "YES" FOR THE MUSEUM PARK AND STADIUM ON DOWNTOWN MIAMI BAY!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1A-SKax8QCPmYjeHnk24oYLxvuf4rvxynWy-GHGOq8tg/viewform

HarryTheHandyman
HarryTheHandyman topcommenter

Sounds like iconic bullshit to me. Build it elsewhere.

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