Poll: Miami-Dade Voters Evenly Split on Beckham's Stadium Plan

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Miami-Dade voters are at a virtual standstill when it comes to David Beckham's proposed plans to fill in the FEC boat slip next to American Airlines Arena and build a new soccer stadium on it. According to a Benedixen and Associates poll commissioned by the Miami Herald, 45 percent are against the idea, while 43 percent are for it. The poll has a 4.3 margin of error, so it's a statistical tie.

Of course, there are a couple of things to keep in mind.

Beckham and his group are hoping to put a referendum concerning the plan in November. However, it's still unclear if that referendum would be put just before City of Miami voters or all of Miami-Dade.

Considering that much of the push-back against the plan deals with the changes it would make to Museum Park, it's likely that City of Miami voters may have stronger opinions on the issue than all of Miami-Dade voters. How much do people in Hialeah and Kendall really care whether people in downtown high-rises have an unobstructed view of a bay-front park anyway?

The poll also finds that younger voters back the plan at a greater rate than older voters. Fifty-four percent of voters between 18 and 29 support the plan. Sixty percent of voters 65 and over oppose it.

As the Herald points out, older voters are a lot more likely to cast ballots especially during midterm elections. Though, this same ballot would include the Florida amendment that would legalize medical marijuana, so we could see a slightly different midterm electorate than usual. Could Beckham's future plans rely on pot?

However, the poll finds through other questions that Miamians might just be stadium-ed out. Voters were split at 46 percent each as to whether they opposed or favored a plan for the county to pay the Dolphins "finder's feed" for bringing in big-time events like Super Bowls. Meanwhile, 53 percent opposed to recent deal to renew the Miami Heat's lease agreement at the Triple-A. Only 38 percent favored in. (A Heat lobbyist says the question should have pointed out that the team may have relocated if they didn't get the deal, but we all know that's utter BS.)

The reverberations of the Marlins stadium disaster still loom large in Miami. Obviously a spokesman for the Beckham group told the Herald that the question should have included the fact that the team would build the stadium with private funds.

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Chgo Dave
Chgo Dave

I wish they just put as much focus on jobs? instead of grown men playing with balls haha :-)

Jorge Rojas
Jorge Rojas

Omg who cares let them build the damn thing

Kathleen Pagan
Kathleen Pagan

I would love to see a soccer stadium in Miami... however that weird little spot doesn'

Michael Cooper
Michael Cooper

Put it at Miami Marine Stadium. Shallow water and stands half built. Great view.

Carlos Rosario
Carlos Rosario

This drawing is faulty soccer fields are much larger than this....

Andrea Domergue
Andrea Domergue

Really? A a soccer stadium now?? Just what we so despereately needed. Miami you're drunk.

Rogelio Madan
Rogelio Madan

Build it near the School Board building where there is tons of empty land and a people mover station.

Chari ThrillSeeker
Chari ThrillSeeker

The slip is being used by MARINE LIFE! Should be left alone, just because you can't make money on thriving sea live doesn't mean it should be destroyed for profit.

Josh Colletta
Josh Colletta

Build it next to Marlins Park or don't build it at all.

Ed Serrano
Ed Serrano

Vote Yes and get informed people. This is a privately funded stadium and a LARGER PARK paid for by David Beckham and his partners and not by the tax payers. The Slip is empty most of the year serving no purpose and collecting almost no revenue. Beckham will pay rent. Traffic will be no different than a Heat game. A YES vote is a vote for more park land and a public space that all South Florida will enjoy.

NoWelfareForTheRich
NoWelfareForTheRich

have the clowns polling yes not learned anything from the previous stadium rip-off?   This is almost worse as it fills in a historic water area and puts up a giant concrete wall on the waterfront.   Miami has waaaaay too little public waterfront to begin with.  

If the owners of this soccer team really want another stadium, they can pay for it themselves, with no free land.   If it's a viable business, they will do just that.  We can't keep libraries open but we're going to give billionaires FREE assets?   IDIOTIC.



Jhon A Cornejo
Jhon A Cornejo

Ugh. Traffic is going to be horrible in that area of Biscayne Blvd.

Jorge B. de Cárdenas
Jorge B. de Cárdenas

to give up the park which is finally being completed and has involved years of planning to another stadium is completely shortsighted and ignorant.... i would love a privately funded soccer stadium in miami, away from our waterfront parks.

Tamara Archer
Tamara Archer

Downtown can barely handle the traffic from events at the AAA now they want to add a stadium? NO

Chari ThrillSeeker
Chari ThrillSeeker

If only for the reason that they are going to kill all the living coral and sea life in the slip I hope they vote NO.

Vince Witty
Vince Witty

Why no? You dont have any reason except to "be in control". You have no reason to vote no and I doubt you even live in one of those sky rises so you cant be a nimby unless youre a pseudo nimby and you just dont like to see development

sgourous
sgourous

Why do people come to Miami?

Many years ago they were moving out, 

but they are returning, because it has a little something for everyone.

The sports,the museums,the parks,it all adds up to a very exciting city .

The more diversified the better.

Do not worry Marlins stadium will become and asset.

DRAKEMALLARD.0
DRAKEMALLARD.0 topcommenter



Stop giving out cash: In joint ventures with big private enterprises, taxpayers always get screwed. Just look at the Miami Heat, the Miami Marlins, Jungle Island, the new Miami Art Museum, the tunnel to nowhere, the Adrienne Arsht Center, and on and on.

Every year, millions of taxpayer dollars are poured into stadiums, 
hockey rinks, baseball parks, and other arenas in order to attract and retain 
professional sports teams in big cities.  Often the money is spent by 
the cities after a team "threatens" to leave the city.When that happens, of course, the local news media act as the willing accomplices of the billionaires who own the teams.When city and state governments build facilities for sports organizations which are owned by billionaires, and raise taxes as a result, it is clearly an abuse of power the infrastructure Is falling apart and the schools are in decline with overcrowding and not enough quality teachers no after school programs no firemen,  no policemen, no health programs for the poor. also the cites  are always going to be in debt. this thing do make money.

it time for more recalls /jail time

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

................"The reverberations of the Marlins stadium disaster still loom large in Miami."

WHY IS IT that these same deals continually happen even AFTER all the bad deals burdening the city

the HEAT pay so little or NO rent on that arena and then they have the ballz to say the would MOVE OUT if they had to pay more ?

i realize the politicians get kick-backs and payments from their friends who get contracted jobs from these projects but just ONCE could someone get as excited and dedicated to go hire a few TEACHERs ? or at least pay the current TEACHERs a living wage with proper benefits ?

Marlins stadium was a scam - it's public education that is the disaster

miamitrev2
miamitrev2 topcommenter

Just like the public was supposedly in favor of giving our money to renovate Joe Robbie....until it came time to vote

becauseAmerica
becauseAmerica

and a buncha south americans who actually give a shit.

NoStadiumDowntown
NoStadiumDowntown

Ed, you are a little misinformed.


1) Beckham wants to pay $5K in rent and the city says that land costs somewhere near 10 million. 


2) Taxpayers already paid millions for the park. It would be a joke if we had to pay for stadium as well. Now, they want to build a stadium on top of a park taxpayers paid millions for.


3) Public Space? there are 22 games in the whole year, per Backham. With AAA next door, Performing Arts Center up the street and Kimmel Center at the Beach this stadium becomes useless for events. This 20K seat stadium is too small for professional sports that are taking place up north. Public space 22 times a year?


4) MLS is not a given in Miami. You only see Marlins and Heat attendance up because of the players. Big 3 with Heat. Look at Marlins. When they won world series their attendance was up - now it's pathetic. beckham is not going to bring famous players. They go to Europe, Mexico and South America to play at a high level. Beckham won't make money on a stadium that is 3/4 full. Guess what? If he doesn't make money, he'll take his team and move it elsewhere. You want to pay millions more with tax payer money to demolish the stadium and build a park on top of it (oh wait, we already did pay for it). 


5) If stadium doesn't succeed, permits in place to get them there, automatically open the possibility of a developer buying the land and lifting several buildings in place. Right now the slip is protected against any type of use (buildings, stadium, etc.)


5) Slip is barely used because the park is closed!!! How do you want people to access park/slip if closed? Interested in hearing your answer. No access = useless for boats and others to go into slip.


If Beckham were smart, he would take the option around Marlins stadium. Here he has a chance to build not only a stadium but to build hotels, condos which is what he wanted at the port. He could build a mega sports complex and reactivate that part of the city. You will then start seeing better neighborhoods rise around that desperately needed area.

NoStadiumDowntown
NoStadiumDowntown

Lynette, there is a referendum that voters decide if yes or no to placing stadium on top of park. It will be in august or november so voters will decide

NoWelfareForTheRich
NoWelfareForTheRich

That kind of attitude is the problem.   Hold the public employees accountable and they won't "do it anyways"....

NoStadiumDowntown
NoStadiumDowntown

1) Beckham wants to pay $5K in rent and the city says that land costs somewhere near 10 million. 


2) Taxpayers already paid millions for the park. It would be a joke if we had to pay for stadium as well. Now, they want to build a stadium on top of a park taxpayers paid millions for.


3) Public Space? there are 22 games in the whole year, per Backham. With AAA next door, Performing Arts Center up the street and Kimmel Center at the Beach this stadium becomes useless for events. This 20K seat stadium is too small for professional sports that are taking place up north. Public space 22 times a year?


4) MLS is not a given in Miami. You only see Marlins and Heat attendance up because of the players. Big 3 with Heat. Look at Marlins. When they won world series their attendance was up - now it's pathetic. beckham is not going to bring famous players. They go to Europe, Mexico and South America to play at a high level. Beckham won't make money on a stadium that is 3/4 full. Guess what? If he doesn't make money, he'll take his team and move it elsewhere. You want to pay millions more with tax payer money to demolish the stadium and build a park on top of it (oh wait, we already did pay for it). 


5) If stadium doesn't succeed, permits in place to get them there, automatically open the possibility of a developer buying the land and lifting several buildings in place. Right now the slip is protected against any type of use (buildings, stadium, etc.)


5) Slip is barely used because the park is closed!!! How do you want people to access park/slip if closed? Interested in hearing your answer. No access = useless for boats and others to go into slip.


If Beckham were smart, he would take the option around Marlins stadium. Here he has a chance to build not only a stadium but to build hotels, condos which is what he wanted at the port. He could build a mega sports complex and reactivate that part of the city. You will then start seeing better neighborhoods rise around that desperately needed area.

miamitrev2
miamitrev2 topcommenter

NIMBY? You live in fucken Broward County and you have the stones to tell us how to spend our money? Kick rocks

NoWelfareForTheRich
NoWelfareForTheRich

@frankd4 it's because people don't get involved and hold the politicians accountable.   Show up and City Hall and let them know how you feel.   Shine light on the shenanigans.   


There will be a protest when the coast guard tall ship visits that very boat slip next week.  Show up and add some support.   


And of course, vote.

bdcorey
bdcorey

@NoStadiumDowntown Sorry anonymous poster - but you are wrong on all five points. 


1) Lease negotiations are pending so you don't actually know how much they will pay (and for some reason you put 5k there). 


2) "it would be a joke if we had to pay for stadium as well." The stadium is completely privately funded. Something tells me you know this but are fear mongering. 


3) The stadium could be used for more than just the 22 games and would be the only sophisticated open air stadium in downtown. Great for open air concerts and any other mid-size event. 


4) David Beckham already has plans to bring some of the biggest names in the game to play for the team. A lot like the Heat did in a similar location. I'd name some of the players, but something tells me you aren't a soccer fan. 


5) The slip will never be used for anything of significance for residents. The last time it was used was for a luxury Super Yacht that was too big to dock anywhere else. The man-made slip collects garbage at the closest part to Biscayne Blvd. Go check it out now - it's gross. Filling in the slip will connect Parcel B and actually create attractive waterfront land.   

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

@NoWelfareForTheRich @frankd4


..............otherwise how do we the people hold twenty or thirty YEARS of past administrations in DETROIT responsible for all the accrued obligations from their time that is now coming due and payable


how will we hold those responsible for the war in IRAQ where we spent $5,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo (that's TRILLION) added to the national debt,  when that comes due and payable


the politicians have learned to avoid ACCOUNTABILITY

frankd4
frankd4 topcommenter

@NoWelfareForTheRich @frankd4


"we the people" are apathetic yes and i personally DO VOTE


the problem as i see it is that the choice is typically between a greedy crook and a spineless shill or a photogenic airhead and a family-resourced privileged dunce


for example, our public bus transit system here in broward, BCT, is a disaster YET i cannot convince county elected commissioners or the mayor to RIDE IT and see for themselves firsthand - indeed the joke is MORE ex-county employees and elected officials have availed themselves,  once indicted and after conviction, of the county PRISON system that the county bus system


QED: to county elected officials and county employees the county PRISON system is preferable to BCT


(i have inquired and learn county employees do requisition discounted BCT ride passes but apparently sell them on the street for a few bucks cash)


now putting the BCT stink under the noses of ever county elected official and administrator yes i do get polite e-mail responses and the occasional telephone call - but BCT is as bad as ever


and that's that


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