Pediatrician Group Urges Florida Doctors to Break "Docs vs. Glocks" Law

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On Friday, the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a controversial Florida law that bans doctors from asking patients if they have guns in their homes. Following the decision, the American Academy of Pediatrics released a decision that pretty much encouraged Florida pediatricians to keep breaking the so called "docs vs glocks" law.

The AAP was one of a number of physicians groups that sued the state over the Rick Scott-signed law, and originally won a case blocking the law back in 2012. The three judge panel of the 11th Circuit Court overturned that decision. The APP and its co-defendants however plan to further appeal the law.

In the meantime, the APP is urging members to keep asking parents if they keep guns in the home.

"Because of the proven value of physician counseling in preventing injury and death, the AAP is advising its members in Florida and throughout the United States to continue to uphold the standard of medical practice and ask about the presence of guns in the environments of children, and to counsel their patients and patients' parents about the importance of storing guns safely," reads a statement from the group.

"We strongly disagree with the 11th Circuit's decision. It is an egregious violation of the First Amendment rights of pediatricians and threatens our ability to provide our patients and their families with scientific, unbiased information," said Mobeen Rathore, MD, FAAP, president of the Florida chapter of the AAP, in the statement. "This dangerous decision gives state legislatures free license to restrict physicians from asking important questions about health and safety that are vital to providing the best medical care to patients."

The law was originally passed in 2011 with the backing of the National Riffle Association. Of course when the NRA says "jump," Florida's Republican-controlled legislature usually asks, "How high?"

The law came about when a couple in Ocala refused to talk to their doctor about guns, so the doctor refused to see them. So they complained to their local state legislature, and voila, the law passed.

Though, the injunction placed on the law in 2012 still remains in effect, so the law will remain unenforced for now.

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Since I am a certified firearms instructor would the APP and Dr Mobeen Rathore be OK with me giving medical advice?


Why would a physician focus on guns unless it was simply because they had an anti-gun agenda? There are far more dangerous items in households than guns, such as cars, motorcycles, bleach, antifreeze, farm equipment, ladders, poisons, chain saws, table saws, knives, fireworks, gasoline cans,  lawn mowers, and improperly stored and cooked raw chicken.

In fact, why would a physician ask about ANY of this stuff at all unless the reason for the visit was because of an accident with one of the above? Why would ANY of this be any business of the physician (or government) unless said item caused the injury being treated? I mean, what's the physician going to do with this information, say, gun possession? Keep records to turn over to the government? Lecture or teach gun safety because the physician is an expert about that?

Does it actually serve the sick patient's interest for the physician to spend a chunk of their extremely limited face time asking irrelevant questions and gathering unrelated personal data instead of trying to actually focus on curing the sick patient? Isn't a cure why a patient sought out the doctor in the first place? What they are paying the doctor for? How would you like to pay a plumber, auto mechanic, or electrician to interrogate you about your gun ownership or your medical problems for that matter instead of fixing what you hired them to fix?


(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.

(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are120,000.

(Calculation) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services


Now think about this:


(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.

(Yes, that’s 80 million..)

(B) The number of accidental gun death per year, all age groups, is 1,500.

(Calculation) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188.

Statistics courtesy of FBI


So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.


Remember, ‘Guns don’t kill people, doctors do.’



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Exiliado topcommenter

That's not the doctor's freaking business!!

A doctor that refuses to see their patients because they don't want to talk about guns should not be a doctor at all.  

HarryTheHandyman topcommenter

You down with APP?  Or is it AAP?  Your make it hard to decide!

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